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“Change is hard” -NebraskansI understand why Franklin is 6 man but why at Harvard would you stay 6 man AND be ineligible when you clearly have enough kids and talent to play 8man??
I understand why Franklin is 6 man but why at Harvard would you stay 6 man AND be ineligible when you clearly have enough kids and talent to play 8man??
Something that may go unnoticed. Hyannis jumps back to D2. You don’t see too many teams jump back up without co-oping or consolidating.
I think a lot of it has to do with the fact their coach is a 6 man coach. That’s what he played in high school, that’s what he’s coached most of his career,I understand why Franklin is 6 man but why at Harvard would you stay 6 man AND be ineligible when you clearly have enough kids and talent to play 8man??
It’s sad. Way too many teams playing 8 man.The crazy thing that I noticed is that C-2 only has 32 teams total. 29 that are playoff eligible. Used to have around 60 teams in C-2.
Why is that sad???It’s sad. Way too many teams playing 8 man.
It’s sad to see C2 being so small. 2007 there was 47 teams in C2.Why is that sad???
It is sad because it shows the decline in population in rural Nebraska. And worse than that it shows the decline in participation numbers. It is sad because the top 14 schools in D-1 should be in C-2 based on their enrollment numbers. And the top 22 are at least as big or bigger than the bottom 3 in C-2. It is sad because the whole D-1 class except HI-Line is at least as big as the smallest in C-2. So it is obvious it can be done. You can field an 11 man team with at least a 37 enrollment, because at least one team is doing it. I am not saying there is anything wrong with 8 man football. It is the best option for a lot of schools. Just not all the schools that are currently in the class.Why is that sad???
Confused by the statement, Blob.Bottom 2 teams in C-2, with 8-man enrollments, happen to be private schools (Hastings St Cecelia & North Platte St Pat).
Imagine that, would of never guessed!
It's a fact that a higher socioeconomic class equals a higher participation rate in extracurricular activities is what I believe he's saying.Confused by the statement, Blob.
Hopefully NPSP can bounce back. Beautiful newer elementary school, nice gym, and a great staff.Bottom 2 teams in C-2, with 8-man enrollments, happen to be private schools (Hastings St Cecelia & North Platte St Pat).
Imagine that, would of never guessed!
Yes I was referring to bruiser84 saying it was "obvious a school with 37 enrollment can compete in 11-man"...and that "there are 22 teams in D-1 that are as big or bigger than bottom 3 in C-2". ...It's a fact that a higher socioeconomic class equals a higher participation rate in extracurricular activities is what I believe he's saying.
I have no interest getting into the same old tired argument about private schools. My statement that it can be done simply meant that with good participation numbers, one can play 11 man football. The "obvious" was because we can SEE it is being done now. Not that everyone with a 37 enrollment number can, because of their own participation number.Yes I was referring to bruiser84 saying it was "obvious a school with 37 enrollment can compete in 11-man"...and that "there are 22 teams in D-1 that are as big or bigger than bottom 3 in C-2". ...
Bottom 2 being private schools...bad comparison
Yes I agree.I have no interest getting into the same old tired argument about private schools. My statement that it can be done simply meant that with good participation numbers, one can play 11 man football. The "obvious" was because we can SEE it is being done now. Not that everyone with a 37 enrollment number can, because of their own participation number.
That could literally happen any game of the season, vs any opponent. It sucks that happened. But that excuse for why a team should not opt down is ridiculous.“...opt down, not be eligible for playoffs and maybe win a few more games...” Consider this -you have the numbers to play up, but still opt down. A player on your playoff ineligible team then causes a career ending injury to a key player on another team. That team’s regular season and postseason are now affected. It happened to our team this year. I hope on next year’s schedule we have no teams playoff ineligible.
I kinda see the point, what if your a team in D1 with an enrollment of 38 to 36 with 20 out and holding your own and then play a team with an enrollment of 72 or 65 who is using you to build their program at your possible expenseThat could literally happen any game of the season, vs any opponent. It sucks that happened. But that excuse for why a team should not opt down is ridiculous.
If a team is opting down that has an enrollment of 65-72, I already have a good idea of how many kids they have out for football and what their school climate/culture is most likely like.I kinda see the point, what if your a team in D1 with an enrollment of 38 to 36 with 20 out and holding your own and then play a team with an enrollment of 72 or 65 who is using you to build their program at your possible expense
Allowing someone to opt down to build their program at any risk of hurting your program is ridiculous and is why a overwhelming majority of states do not allow itIf a team is opting down that has an enrollment of 65-72, I already have a good idea of how many kids they have out for football and what their school climate/culture is most likely like.
Placing blame for catastrophic injuries is ridiculous.
I don't like it either....Allowing someone to opt down to build their program at any risk of hurting your program is ridiculous and is why a overwhelming majority of states do not allow it
Different Thread.... same old conversation. Let's throw out there the unfair advantage that private schools have while we are at it! Give it a rest fellas...Allowing someone to opt down to build their program at any risk of hurting your program is ridiculous and is why a overwhelming majority of states do not allow it
All of your above reasons of why that school is struggling and are that schools problems, not other schools problems and should not at any risk of any kind be shared with everyone because of that schools problem. This is not Burger King, you can't always have your wayI don't like it either....
But how is letting a school with an enrollment of 65-72, that in all likelihood has poor participation in the first place (probably has less kids out than the school with 38 enrollment), more than likely poor school culture with sports, and poor weight room attendance, worse than playing a juggernaut with 48 enrollment, that has 36 kids out, that all lift, and have a culture of winning?
Let's be honest here, and that's why I said blaming catastrophic injuries on something like this is ridiculous.
You brought up the differing enrollments and now avoiding any actual discussion of it.All of your above reasons of why that school is struggling are that schools problem, not other schools problems and should not at any risk of any kind be shared with everyone because of that schools problem. This is not Burger King, you can't always have your way
playing up is a choice that a school can makeThe latest "arguement" is off point. There are B teams that play C1, C1 that play C2, etc. What if one of those catastrophic injuries happens in that game with a team that isn't eligible in that class? Are you so upset then?