Basketball Boys State Tournament Brackets + Who Just Missed Out

[Alum-Ni]

Boys State Tournament begins on Thursday, March 8

*** - denotes Wildcard selection

CLASS A
at Pinnacle Bank Arena
#1 Omaha Central (24-2) - 2:00 p.m.
#8 Millard South (16-7)***

#4 Kearney (18-6) - 3:45 p.m.
#5 Bellevue West (18-6)

#2 Omaha Creighton Prep (23-1) - 7:00 p.m.
#7 Lincoln Pius X (16-8)

#3 Lincoln East (24-1) - 8:45 p.m.
#6 Omaha Bryan (19-5)

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CLASS B
at Pinnacle Bank Arena
#4 Bennington (23-3) - 9:00 a.m.
#5 Aurora (22-4)

#1 York (24-1) - 10:45 a.m.
#8 Crete (18-8)

at Bob Devaney Sports Center
#3 Platteview (24-2) - 7:00 p.m.
#6 Gretna (18-6)

#2 Omaha Skutt (23-3) - 8:45 p.m.
#7 Omaha Roncalli (19-5)

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CLASS C1
at Bob Devaney Sports Center
#4 Grand Island Central Catholic (20-6) - 9:00 a.m.
#5 Lincoln Christian (18-7)

#1 Wahoo (24-2) - 10:45 a.m.
#8 Ogallala (13-14)

#3 Broken Bow (22-3)*** - 2:00 p.m.
#6 Boone Central/Newman Grove (19-7)

#2 Winnebago (20-6)*** - 3:45 p.m.
#7 Syracuse (17-9)

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CLASS C2
at Lincoln Southeast
#3 Hastings St. Cecilia (22-3) - 2:00 p.m.
#6 South Loup (21-3)***

#2 Yutan (24-1) - 3:45 p.m.
#7 Arcadia/Loup City (22-4)

#1 Ponca (27-1) - 7:00 p.m.
#8 Perkins County (16-7)

#4 Elmwood-Murdock (19-4)*** - 8:45 p.m.
#5 Bancroft-Rosalie/Lyons-Decatur (24-2)

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CLASS D1
at Lincoln Northeast
#2 Paxton (22-1) - 9:00 a.m.
#7 Nebraska City Lourdes (18-8)

#3 Atkinson West Holt (20-3)*** - 10:45 a.m.
#6 Johnson-Brock (22-5)

#4 Heartland (20-3)*** - 2:00 p.m.
#5 Osmond (22-3)

#1 Kenesaw (26-0) - 3:45 p.m.
#8 Fullerton (20-4)

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CLASS D2
at Lincoln Southeast
#1 Falls City Sacred Heart (22-3)*** - 9:00 a.m.
#8 Cody-Kilgore (12-8)

#4 Giltner (19-6)*** - 10:45 a.m.
#5 Wilcox-Hildreth (19-7)

at Lincoln Northeast
#2 Riverside (23-2) - 7:00 p.m.
#7 Wynot (14-9)

#3 Mullen (19-5) - 8:45 p.m.
#6 Mead (11-12)

 

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Teams that just missed out of the state tournament. Tournament teams are in bold, wildcard selections are denoted with "***"

CLASS A
1. Omaha Central (24-2) - 44.7692
2. Omaha Creighton Prep (23-1) - 44.6667
3. Lincoln East (24-1) - 44.1600
4. Kearney (18-6) - 42.6250
5. Bellevue West (18-6) - 42.5000
6. Omaha Bryan (19-5) - 42.4583
7. Lincoln Pius X (16-8) - 42.0833
8. Millard South (16-7) - 41.8261***
9. Lincoln Southwest (14-10) - 41.2917
10. Papillion-LaVista (13-11) - 40.8333

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CLASS B
1. York (24-1) - 45.6800
2. Omaha Skutt (23-3) - 45.3846
3. Platteview (24-2) - 44.5000
4. Bennington (23-3) - 44.3077
5. Aurora (22-4) - 44.1538
6. Gretna (18-6) - 43.5833
7. Omaha Roncalli (19-5) - 43.4583
8. Scottsbluff (18-9) - 43.0741
9. Crete (18-8) - 42.6923
10. Sidney (18-8) - 42.6154

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CLASS C1
1. Wahoo (24-2) - 45.6923
2. Winnebago (20-6) - 44.3462***
3. Broken Bow (22-3) - 44.2400***
4. Grand Island Central Catholic (20-6) - 43.9615
5. Logan View/Scribner-Snyder (21-5) - 43.7308
6. Lincoln Christian (18-7) - 43.7200
7. O'Neill (20-3) - 43.6087
8. North Bend (22-4) - 43.5000
9. Gordon-Rushville (20-5) - 42.9200
10. Cozad (18-6) - 42.7500
11. Boone Central/Newman Grove (19-7) - 42.6538
12. Hastings Adams Central (15-10) - 42.6000
13. Wahoo Neumann (14-10) - 42.5417
14. Omaha Concordia (12-10) - 42.1818
15. Auburn (16-10) - 42.1154
16. Syracuse (17-9) - 41.8846
17. Boys Town (15-9) - 41.8333
18. St. Paul (16-9) - 41.8000
19. Milford (17-8) - 41.6800
20. Falls City (14-11) - 41.5200
21. West Point-Beemer (15-10) - 41.4400
22. Wayne (14-11) - 41.0400
23. David City Aquinas (14-10) - 40.8750
24. Hershey (12-10) - 40.8636
25. Mitchell (12-15) - 40.7407
26. Ord (10-11) - 40.6667
27. Louisville (14-12) - 40.5769
28. Chadron (8-13) - 40.2857
29. Lincoln Lutheran (9-14) - 40.2609
29. Chase County (11-12) - 40.2609
31. Ogallala (13-14) - 40.2222

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CLASS C2
1. Ponca (27-1) - 46.6876
2. Yutan (24-1) - 46.2000
3. Hastings St. Cecilia (22-3) - 46.0000
4. Elmwood-Murdock (19-4) - 45.5217***
5. Bancroft-Rosalie/Lyons-Decatur (24-2) - 45.4615
6. South Loup (21-3) - 44.5833***
7. Arcadia/Loup City (22-4) - 44.5385
8. Battle Creek (19-7) - 44.4231
9. Centennial (22-4) - 44.0769
10. Freeman (19-7) - 44.0769
11. Lutheran High Northeast (18-5) - 43.8261
12. Doniphan-Trumbull (15-8) - 43.1739
13. Wisner-Pilger (17-8) - 43.0800
14. Ravenna (15-9) - 43.0000
15. Oakland-Craig (16-10) - 42.8462
16. Sutton (16-8) - 42.8333
17. Perkins County (16-7) - 42.6522

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CLASS D1
1. Kenesaw (26-0) - 45.6538
2. Paxton (22-1) - 45.2174
3. Atkinson West Holt (20-3) - 44.9130***
4. Heartland (20-3) - 44.8261***
5. Osmond (22-3) - 44.6400
6. Johnson-Brock (22-5) - 44.4074
7. Nebraska City Lourdes (18-8) - 44.3077
8. Fullerton (20-4) - 43.8750
9. Bruning-Davenport/Shickley (20-6) - 43.8462
10. Tri County (18-7) - 43.7600

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CLASS D2
1. Falls City Sacred Heart (22-3) - 46.4800***
2. Riverside (23-2) - 46.4400
3. Mullen (19-5) - 44.3333
4. Giltner (19-6) - 44.2000***
5. Exeter-Milligan (20-6) - 44.1923
6. Humphrey St. Francis (18-8) - 44.0769
7. Wilcox-Hildreth (19-7) - 43.9231
8. Mead (11-12) - 43.3478
9. Loomis (18-6) - 43.2500
10. Wauneta-Palisade (15-9) - 42.8750
11. Parkview Christian (13-10) - 42.6957
12. Wynot (14-9) - 42.3043
13. Winside (15-9) - 42.0417
14. Cody-Kilgore (12-8) - 42.0000

 

[JET20]

Really have to feel for O'Neill seniors, tough football season and miss out on state basketball tournament after a really good season.

 

[sportsjunkie2030]

Really have to feel for O'Neill seniors, tough football season and miss out on state basketball tournament after a really good season.

O'Neill has a great coach and great bunch of kids, however; after watching them a few times I'm not sure they would have been able to compete in Lincoln.

 

[runningback43]

I think O'Neill would compete better than Ogallala will.

 

[sportsjunkie2030]

I think O'Neill would compete better than Ogallala will.

Very true. Good point

 

[highschoolfootballnut]

I think O'Neill would compete better than Ogallala will.

Problem with Oniel is under the current system they have a very weak schedule, They play down a class 14 times and up a class 0 times, you want a chance at wildcard or a better chance at State have your school work on a better schedule, they very well may be a great team, but can not tell by looking at the schedule

 

[HappyTrail3200]

I think the way Ogallala was just a culmination of a perfect storm. Gordon-Rushville (#9) and Cozad (#10) were both in that district, even in different subdistricts for that matter. There had to be two upsets to set up the district final between Mitchell (#25) and Ogallala (#31) instead of the projected Gordon-Rushville vs Cozad matchup. Had both of these teams won through their districts, their power points rankings may have been even higher than what there were at the end of the year. This situation could have happened in any district across the state I think.

 

[HighPlainsCoach]

I think O'Neill would compete better than Ogallala will.

Maybe. They lost really bad to Albion. If BC wins it, then they'll have an argument.

 

[runningback43]

I'm betting that if Ogallala was in O'Neill's subdistrict they would have gotten beat in the play in game. I've seen O'Neill play once this year and I wasn't impressed by them at all, but they would beat Ogallala by 20 plus.

 

[hdendzonecam]

Serpentine all districts and give the next four wildcards a chance to compete for a trip to Lincoln along with the 12 sub finalists. I really liked the setup for volleyball, and Class B did it, so why not do it top to bottom?

 

[hdendzonecam]

Serpentined C1 Substate
1.Wahoo 2.Bago 3. Br. Bow 4.GICC 5. LV-Scrib 6.Lin Chr. 7.O’Neill 8.North Bend 9.Gordon-Rush 10.Cozad 11.Boone 12.Auburn 13.Syracuse 14.Mitchell 15.Ogallala 16.Kearney Cath

 

[HighPlainsCoach]

I'm betting that if Ogallala was in O'Neill's subdistrict they would have gotten beat in the play in game. I've seen O'Neill play once this year and I wasn't impressed by them at all, but they would beat Ogallala by 20 plus.

And when did you see Ogallala? Maybe better to say you really have no idea how the two would fare if they played. A little honesty can go a long ways. Again, I don't care. I got no problem with O'Neill. They had a chance approaching zero of winning a game, let alone winning it all, imo. Their being blown out by a team that was below #16 starting the post-season tells me all I need to know. So, what you people are proposing is to inconvenience 15 other schools, almost 200 players and at least that many families just so O'Neill gets a participation trophy, first round loser T-shirts, etc., and Ogallala doesn't? Yeesh. That, to me is flippin' crazy, horribly arrogant, and full of delusions of grandeur.

 

[Junger1313]

Well said High Plains

 

[runningback43]

All I'm saying is that the system we have now is broken. By the way I am from Ogallala, so I've seen them play several times this year and they aren't good at all. Got lucky to get to Lincoln. I don't think this game against Wahoo will be 1992 all over again.

Have you seen Boone Central play this year? I've heard they are big and physical.

 

[sportsjunkie2030]

All I'm saying is that the system we have now is broken. By the way I am from Ogallala, so I've seen them play several times this year and they aren't good at all. Got lucky to get to Lincoln. I don't think this game against Wahoo will be 1992 all over again.

Have you seen Boone Central play this year? I've heard they are big and physical.

To me, Boone Central is a 3-4 loss team, but their football success kind of put a damper on the beginning of their basketball season. They lost a few games they probably shouldn't have, but it happens. Wouldn't be the least bit surprised to see Boone make a run this week in Lincoln.

 

[highschoolfootballnut]

And when did you see Ogallala? Maybe better to say you really have no idea how the two would fare if they played. A little honesty can go a long ways. Again, I don't care. I got no problem with O'Neill. They had a chance approaching zero of winning a game, let alone winning it all, imo. Their being blown out by a team that was below #16 starting the post-season tells me all I need to know. So, what you people are proposing is to inconvenience 15 other schools, almost 200 players and at least that many families just so O'Neill gets a participation trophy, first round loser T-shirts, etc., and Ogallala doesn't? Yeesh. That, to me is flippin' crazy, horribly arrogant, and full of delusions of grandeur.

Then under your theory, we should just make State 4 team or 6, and get rid of the other teams since they have no chance of winning, problem solved

 

[SPbObRT]

sorry highplains but plain and simple the teams out west play weak schedules, i agree with running back, most western teams might have good records but quality wins is very few, they won't compete with the wahoos and boones or probably even bago even though they aren't what they used to be. i think Ponca would probably beat them by 10-15 as well and they are C2. history other then Scottsbluff and few years ago and when daum played at kimbell prove my point.

 

[hdendzonecam]

All I am saying about serpentining is to make the system fair and not rely on simple geography. Having two districts with 5 teams in the top 10 just doesn't work. That is why wrestling changed their format. Going to a substate format makes sense. Its not unfair to anyone, it justs makes sure that teams that are in a loaded sub district don't get eliminated early because of geography. There was one district that had Wahoo, Bishop Neumann, Boys Town, and Logan View. Another district had Winnebago, Broken Bow, O'Neill, and Boone Central. That basically means the wildcard is done for the remainder of the state.

 

[HighPlainsCoach]

All I'm saying is that the system we have now is broken. By the way I am from Ogallala, so I've seen them play several times this year and they aren't good at all. Got lucky to get to Lincoln. I don't think this game against Wahoo will be 1992 all over again.

Have you seen Boone Central play this year? I've heard they are big and physical.

I haven't seen either team play. On paper, Wahoo v Ogallala looks like a collossal mismatch. But, so does Wahoo against any team not in the field. And the system is not remotely close to "broken". When we begin to see Top 4 teams left out, maybe, MAYBE I'll join you. They aren't. The system works every bit as good as any other. In fact until we ditch the horrible power points system AND start actually seeding the state tournament, all of this "fairness" talk is moot.

 

[HighPlainsCoach]

To me, Boone Central is a 3-4 loss team, but their football success kind of put a damper on the beginning of their basketball season. They lost a few games they probably shouldn't have, but it happens. Wouldn't be the least bit surprised to see Boone make a run this week in Lincoln.

Noted. We'll see. But, keep in mind this was a team that was, iirc, #18 two weeks ago.

 

[HighPlainsCoach]

All I am saying about serpentining is to make the system fair and not rely on simple geography. Having two districts with 5 teams in the top 10 just doesn't work. That is why wrestling changed their format. Going to a substate format makes sense. Its not unfair to anyone, it justs makes sure that teams that are in a loaded sub district don't get eliminated early because of geography. There was one district that had Wahoo, Bishop Neumann, Boys Town, and Logan View. Another district had Winnebago, Broken Bow, O'Neill, and Boone Central. That basically means the wildcard is done for the remainder of the state.

First, those 8 teams are not equal. Second, Class D wrestling is the most ridiculous thing I've seen, even more than the VB "substate". It may, but didn't really, balance the teams, it completely imbalanced different weight classes. All that extra travel and expense, the burden on families, lost class time...for what? This whole quest for "fairness" is simply the new participation trophy. You know what, kids? Sometimes life isn't fair. Sometimes your pitted against Butler County in bb. Sometimes you have Cameron Riggs in your weight class. Sometimes you DON'T get rewarded when you should have been. Sometimes you have to travel 450 miles in a single week for T, F, S games in the regular season. Life is tough. Do the best you can and deal with the results. No championship team gets left out. Period. People want to create a crisis, so they can have a solution. Then, despite the cost and disruption, when someone points out...it's about the same, they say: "See...it works". This, in true modern fashion isn't about who gets left out. It just offends some that an Ogallala or Albion, that Hartington CC or Pierce girls qualify. I say good for them. They did what they had to. It's the New Age participation trophy mentality. "Maybe I didn't earn anything, but look at THEM, it's not FAIR..." sigh...

 

[runningback43]

What's a shame is having two teams play in a district final that are below .500. Ogallala vs. Mitchell. Two 12-14 teams playing each other for a berth to the state tournament. Wow, how exciting!

C2-6 girls sub district is enough evidence for me that something needs to be done. Creighton was the #1 seed with 8 wins on the season. At least Ainsworth got their participation trophy by getting the District Runner-Up plaque with a total of 6 wins on the season. Good for them I guess.

 

[HappyTrail3200]

What's a shame is having two teams play in a district final that are below .500. Ogallala vs. Mitchell. Two 12-14 teams playing each other for a berth to the state tournament. Wow, how exciting!

It was the result of two upsets in the subdistrict. Sorry it happened that way but as noted earlier, its an anomaly.

 

[HighPlainsCoach]

Then under your theory, we should just make State 4 team or 6, and get rid of the other teams since they have no chance of winning, problem solved

I could live with that honestly. Again, we need to keep the role of sports in the school setting in perspective. It would hurt T shirt sales, no doubt. But, yeah, I'd be good with it. The size and demographics of our state just don't lend themselves to anything other than what we've done. Anyone arguing that is probably someone who sees Grand Island as "western Nebraska" or North Platte as "Back East".

 

[just_average32]

This about sums it up. We are talking in circles.
- One faction of people would like to see our teams have an equal/fair shot at reaching the state tournament, by adding one day of travel to make sure we get the most deserving teams to state.
-The other faction of people pertaining to the non-eastern part of the state, would prefer the current system because there is nothing wrong with a crappy team beating crappier teams geographically around them to get state and having teams travel farther for one game would be completely detrimental to the health and well being of all Nebraska citizens, deteriorate the educational fabric of school systems statewide, as well as lead to the downfall of western civilization.

-A necessary evil has happened (unfortunately for the team), the Ord girls got bounced in the district final after having an undefeated season, and did not qualify for the state tournament. Maybe the non-eastern districts of 4,5,6 will decide to support legislation for a sub-state (but i doubt it, because I'm pretty sure they tried to get rid of sub-state in volleyball)

See video for the argument

 

[HighPlainsCoach]

What's a shame is having two teams play in a district final that are below .500. Ogallala vs. Mitchell. Two 12-14 teams playing each other for a berth to the state tournament. Wow, how exciting!

C2-6 girls sub district is enough evidence for me that something needs to be done. Creighton was the #1 seed with 8 wins on the season. At least Ainsworth got their participation trophy by getting the District Runner-Up plaque with a total of 6 wins on the season. Good for them I guess.

So who got left out of C2 girls that offends you? You honestly think that all 16 teams, based on power points, deserve a one game chance to get to state? Pffffttttt. At least now, these teams have to put 3/4 wins together. Again, which championship caliber team got left out?

 

[HighPlainsCoach]

This about sums it up. We are talking in circles.
- One faction of people would like to see our teams have an equal/fair shot at reaching the state tournament, by adding one day of travel to make sure we get the most deserving teams to state.
-The other faction of people pertaining to the non-eastern part of the state, would prefer the current system because there is nothing wrong with a crappy team beating crappier teams geographically around them to get state and having teams travel farther for one game would be completely detrimental to the health and well being of all Nebraska citizens, deteriorate the educational fabric of school systems statewide, as well as lead to the downfall of western civilization.

-A necessary evil has happened (unfortunately for the team), the Ord girls got bounced in the district final after having an undefeated season, and did not qualify for the state tournament. Maybe the non-eastern districts of 4,5,6 will decide to support legislation for a sub-state (but i doubt it, because I'm pretty sure they tried to get rid of sub-state in volleyball)

See video for the argument

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Common sense has nothing to do with what part of the state you are from. If more people back here don't see any problem with it, honestly, it's because they can't even comprehend what two trips to Kimball or Crawford or Mitchell will be like...see "Grand Island is a long way" crowd. And make no mistake, there WILL be those trips. The Power Point system will see to that. The Ord girls (probably because of their weak "western" schedule) lost to a team that wasn't in the top 16. Pierce then lost to Mitchell by 17 in the first round. They had their chance. All of this silly anger just to "fix" a "problem" that doesn't exist. I'm sorry if a panhandle school "steals" your kid's first round loser T shirt. Just remind yourself how much better we have it here... LOL

 

[highschoolfootballnut]

Common sense has nothing to do with what part of the state you are from. If more people back here don't see any problem with it, honestly, it's because they can't even comprehend what two trips to Kimball or Crawford or Mitchell will be like...see "Grand Island is a long way" crowd. And make no mistake, there WILL be those trips. The Power Point system will see to that. The Ord girls (probably because of their weak "western" schedule) lost to a team that wasn't in the top 16. Pierce then lost to Mitchell by 17 in the first round. They had their chance. All of this silly anger just to "fix" a "problem" that doesn't exist. I'm sorry if a panhandle school "steals" your kid's first round loser T shirt. Just remind yourself how much better we have it here... LOL

Still comes down to this, people like you do not want a seeded 16 team bracket with ONE game of travel because YOU know that teams in your area and some areas will never get to State, so you are happy with it because it works for you. Like said please stay at Highplains and keep that program rolling : )

 

[runningback43]

I didn't say anybody got left out in C-2. My point is that doing things geographically in this day and age doesn't make sense at all. In C-1 and C-2 football only 16 teams make it to the football playoffs. No east west split anymore. Why can't we do that in the other sports?

 

[Shorty117]

I have seen Oneill play a couple times this year. While they don’t deserve to be at state because they lost in sub-districts, the fact that you don’t think they can compete is way off. If anything I would say they would be the 3rd best team in this class behind Wahoo and Winnebago. They could easily beat Syracuse or Ogallala. They split with Boone on the year and the sub-district game was two points going into the 4th quarter. GICC and Lincoln Christian would be good games and they could also beat Broken Bow. I think there should be a sub-state in the future to try and get the best 8 teams to state. Now this won’t always happen but it is the best possible way for it to happen. They gave Neumann a run for their money the past two years down at state and to think they wouldn’t compete in a down year in C1 is crazy.

 

[just_average32]

Common sense has nothing to do with what part of the state you are from. If more people back here don't see any problem with it, honestly, it's because they can't even comprehend what two trips to Kimball or Crawford or Mitchell will be like...see "Grand Island is a long way" crowd. And make no mistake, there WILL be those trips. The Power Point system will see to that. The Ord girls (probably because of their weak "western" schedule) lost to a team that wasn't in the top 16. Pierce then lost to Mitchell by 17 in the first round. They had their chance. All of this silly anger just to "fix" a "problem" that doesn't exist. I'm sorry if a panhandle school "steals" your kid's first round loser T shirt. Just remind yourself how much better we have it here... LOL

My proposition was 10 geographic sub-districts, 6 wild cards and one game sub-state with neutral locations seeded 1-16 seed. So there would only be one game of travel and that means if Crawford were to play Falls City Sacred Heart (I know they are in different classes but they are geographically as far apart as possible), they could meet in Cozad and it'd take a little over 4 hours and 20 minutes. That means they drive 4 hours instead of 2 hours

As stated before, those who don't want to change it, it's because they've been benefiting from the current system. I guess the pud district families can buy some cheap shirts on amazon since everyone out there is afraid to drive places to get what they want.

Man, how pissed were you when they changed the qualifications for track? How dare they try to make it more fair by not screwing over loaded districts. Who wants the fastest kids at state track anyway?

 

[HighPlainsCoach]

Still comes down to this, people like you do not want a seeded 16 team bracket with ONE game of travel because YOU know that teams in your area and some areas will never get to State, so you are happy with it because it works for you. Like said please stay at Highplains and keep that program rolling : )

If you honestly believe that I have any affinity for any neighboring schools, you're even more confused than it seems. It's called common sense. Like the non-revenues in the NCAA use, like all professional sports use, like the NIT, etc. it would be foolish in the greatest extent to begin dragging kids all over the state to solve absolutely nothing. And it wouldn't help. People would still whine about a non-existent problem, just a different one. Forget who is inconvenienced. Just make it better for ME. smh. Forget teaching kids about how to deal with disappointments, or showing them the value of performing when it matters. No chance of that. Just reassure the little dears on the flight to Cabo how "unfair" it all is...

 

[runningback43]

If you honestly believe that I have any affinity for any neighboring schools, you're even more confused than it seems. It's called common sense. Like the non-revenues in the NCAA use, like all professional sports use, like the NIT, etc. it would be foolish in the greatest extent to begin dragging kids all over the state to solve absolutely nothing. And it wouldn't help. People would still whine about a non-existent problem, just a different one. Forget who is inconvenienced. Just make it better for ME. smh. Forget teaching kids about how to deal with disappointments, or showing them the value of performing when it matters. No chance of that. Just reassure the little dears on the flight to Cabo how "unfair" it all is...

Huh?

 

[HighPlainsCoach]

My proposition was 10 geographic sub-districts, 6 wild cards and one game sub-state with neutral locations seeded 1-16 seed. So there would only be one game of travel and that means if Crawford were to play Falls City Sacred Heart (I know they are in different classes but they are geographically as far apart as possible), they could meet in Cozad and it'd take a little over 4 hours and 20 minutes. That means they drive 4 hours instead of 2 hours

As stated before, those who don't want to change it, it's because they've been benefiting from the current system. I guess the pud district families can buy some cheap shirts on amazon since everyone out there is afraid to drive places to get what they want.

Man, how pissed were you when they changed the qualifications for track? How dare they try to make it more fair by not screwing over loaded districts. Who wants the fastest kids at state track anyway?

All this anger! I suggest the safe zone might be more comfortable for you. So, instead of making awful assumptions, maybe describe which state championship caliber team has gotten left out? If you want to go to state. Win your district. There isn't a problem.
As for your example, I get what you are saying, although, I'd suggest that you're closer to 5 hours than 4, especially by bus. Not counting potty breaks and lunch. I'd also say that it would be inherently unfair to force the best team in the state, one to which an hour trip is a long road trip, to play a one game, high stakes deal, in a strange gym after being on the road about as long as the girls are in school. If I'm Sacred Heart, I'm totally po'ed. THAT to me seems the recipe for shocking results. The current Wild Card generally gets the right teams to state. Winner take all might even mean a less competitive field at state, if a couple of flukes occur. Again, all of this, and why??? It makes zero sense. There is no "problem".

 

[just_average32]

All this anger! I suggest the safe zone might be more comfortable for you. So, instead of making awful assumptions, maybe describe which state championship caliber team has gotten left out? If you want to go to state. Win your district. There isn't a problem.
As for your example, I get what you are saying, although, I'd suggest that you're closer to 5 hours than 4, especially by bus. Not counting potty breaks and lunch. I'd also say that it would be inherently unfair to force the best team in the state, one to which an hour trip is a long road trip, to play a one game, high stakes deal, in a strange gym after being on the road about as long as the girls are in school. If I'm Sacred Heart, I'm totally po'ed. THAT to me seems the recipe for shocking results. The current Wild Card generally gets the right teams to state. Winner take all might even mean a less competitive field at state, if a couple of flukes occur. Again, all of this, and why??? It makes zero sense. There is no "problem".

Anger? Yes, seething with anger. You must have cracked my code and read right through my lack of exclamation points.
The girls state tournament this past weekend had four #5 seeds make the championship game and two of them came away with championship trophies. Scotus lost to Neumann earlier in the year, and beat them in the championship game.
The LVSS boys would be the #5 seed but the district with O’Neill, Boone Central, Winnebago, and Broken Bow knocked each other around and took 2 wild card spots. Leaving LVSS on the outside looking in at what would have been a #5 seed. All 5 of their losses are to state tournament teams. I’d argue they very well could have been a team that wins a championship as a 5 seed.
I circle back to the video.

 

[highschoolfootballnut]

Anger? Yes, seething with anger. You must have cracked my code and read right through my lack of exclamation points.
The girls state tournament this past weekend had four #5 seeds make the championship game and two of them came away with championship trophies. Scotus lost to Neumann earlier in the year, and beat them in the championship game.
The LVSS boys would be the #5 seed but the district with O’Neill, Boone Central, Winnebago, and Broken Bow knocked each other around and took 2 wild card spots. Leaving LVSS on the outside looking in at what would have been a #5 seed. All 5 of their losses are to state tournament teams. I’d argue they very well could have been a team that wins a championship as a 5 seed.
I circle back to the video.

BINGO

 

[Llama57]

All this anger! I suggest the safe zone might be more comfortable for you. So, instead of making awful assumptions, maybe describe which state championship caliber team has gotten left out? If you want to go to state. Win your district. There isn't a problem.
As for your example, I get what you are saying, although, I'd suggest that you're closer to 5 hours than 4, especially by bus. Not counting potty breaks and lunch. I'd also say that it would be inherently unfair to force the best team in the state, one to which an hour trip is a long road trip, to play a one game, high stakes deal, in a strange gym after being on the road about as long as the girls are in school. If I'm Sacred Heart, I'm totally po'ed. THAT to me seems the recipe for shocking results. The current Wild Card generally gets the right teams to state. Winner take all might even mean a less competitive field at state, if a couple of flukes occur. Again, all of this, and why??? It makes zero sense. There is no "problem".

I thought you didn’t care about “fairness”. Talk out both sides of your mouth much?

 

[huskerfan1414]

If you honestly believe that I have any affinity for any neighboring schools, you're even more confused than it seems. It's called common sense. Like the non-revenues in the NCAA use, like all professional sports use, like the NIT, etc. it would be foolish in the greatest extent to begin dragging kids all over the state to solve absolutely nothing. And it wouldn't help. People would still whine about a non-existent problem, just a different one. Forget who is inconvenienced. Just make it better for ME. smh. Forget teaching kids about how to deal with disappointments, or showing them the value of performing when it matters. No chance of that. Just reassure the little dears on the flight to Cabo how "unfair" it all is...

You could say the same about your stance.
I agree with you totally about how life isnt fair all the time.
But whats currently happening is a participation trophy method, one you should despise. Take a step back and look at it.
Since its all split by geography, the teams out west are the ones getting the "just make it better for me" treatment you speak of. They are the ones getting the participation trophies and t shirts you are talking about. And btw how about you stop minimizing making it to state the kids work hard if it pisses you off they get a tshirt then just dont go or be around it.
The western teams are the ones who think substate would be unfair. They are getting coddled, which you so despise.
Any rational human being who looks at the districts in C1 knows theres something very wrong with it. Its not about fairness or participation, its about being logical and doing what makes sense. Why is it so wrong to try to find a system that puts the best 8 teams at state? Western teams would still have a shot its not like they wont be involved.
And spare me the travel crap...todays schools are so bloated with taxpayer money its a non issue. You could have nuetral sites too.

I usuaully agree with you but youre just plain being irrational here. Our current system babies kids. Sub state would NOT.