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I imagine the amount of decline in Nebraska is similar to what is in this story from Iowa:


Downhill slope remains slippery in terms of girls' basketball participation in Iowa
by Jeff Linder, Cedar Rapids Gazette

Player interest was low, and coaching prospects were slim.

A difficult decision -- a temporary shutdown of the girls' basketball program -- was confirmed late last fall at Central City High School, when a meeting was called to gauge interest among potential players.

Three showed up.

And with that, Central City became one of six schools in Iowa without a varsity girls basketball team this winter, and one of two (Rockford is the other) without the sport in any capacity.

The other four -- Sibley-Ocheydan, Clarion-Goldfield-Dows, West Sioux and Charles City -- are playing a non-varsity schedule this winter.

Sibley-Ocheydan is only two years removed from reaching the Class 2A state semifinals. Charles City has roughly 250 girls in grades 9-12.

* * * * *

It would be an exaggeration to say girls' basketball is dying.

However, it's undeniable that the sport is bleeding.

"It's concerning," said Williamsburg Coach Stephanie Dacey, who -- as Stephanie Rich -- was Miss Iowa Basketball 2001 at Washington (Iowa).

The sport that put Iowa on the map during its six-on-six heyday, girls' basketball has suffered a steady decline for three decades.

Once the undisputed sport of choice among Iowa girls, basketball now ranks No. 4 in participation behind volleyball, track & field and softball.

The 2007-08 school year was the final year that girls' basketball participation in Iowa was above 10,000 (it was 10,031).

In 2023-24, the figure was 6,179, a 16-year drop of 38.4 percent.

In November, The Gazette ran an informal social-media survey, asking schools for a first-day-of-practice number of girls' basketball participants.

The 132 responses reflected more than one-third of the state's schools. The results:

- Eight schools (6.1 percent) had more than 30 girls show up on the first day.

- 19 schools (14.4 percent) reported a number in the high-20s (25-29).

- 28 schools (21.2 percent) reported a number in the low 20s (20-24)

- 50 schools (37.9 percent) reported a number in the high teens (15-19)

- 32 schools (24.2 percent) reported a number in the low teens (10-14)

- And five schools (3.8 percent) reported a number of nine or fewer

* * * * *

Girls' basketball has traditionally been an uphill climb at Central City. The Wildcats did reach double-digit wins three straight years in a run that ended in 2021-22.

The school is fighting an enrollment challenge, superintendent Leisa Breitfelder said.

"From 2020 to 2024, we're down 70 kids (grades K-12) that live in the district," Breitfelder said. "Counting open-enrollment, we're down 84."

"There are no housing developments, no growth. We need young families. Changing the culture here is a priority."

Along with a shortage of kids is a shortage of coaching prospects. Central City hasn't had an "in-house" coach, one that also teaches in the district, in more than a decade.

Central City lies geographically between two Tri-Rivers Conference rival school districts that have enjoyed massive girls' basketball success.

Springville, a school with similar enrollment to the southeast, has captured four Class 1A state championships since 2008.

North Linn, to the northwest, appears to be on its way to a 15th consecutive season of 20-plus wins. Two of those seasons ended in state titles.

Meanwhile, down the road, 13 miles to the west, Center Point-Urbana has 28 girls out this winter.

"It just depends on the class," CPU coach Philip Klett said. "We have a big senior class. That class started with 12 (as freshmen), and we still have eight, and two of them don't play much.

"Usually, if you don't play, you don't want to stick around, but these kids have stuck around. This is a unique group of kids. Really good kids."

Of the three Central City girls that came to that fateful meeting last fall, only one was interested in playing for another school in a cooperative situation, Breitfelder said.

* * * * *

Basketball's downward trend isn't unique to Iowa.

According to a recent story by the Associated Press, participation in girls high school basketball has dropped nearly 20 percent nationwide in the last 20 years, and the sport has fallen from being the most popular among girls to No. 4 behind volleyball, soccer and track, all of which have seen double-digit surges in participation.

So girls are still playing sports. They're playing sports other than basketball.

The trend isn't just among girls, either.

In the same span -- from 2007-08 to 2023-24 -- in which Iowa girls participation has dropped 38.4 percent, it's down 23.3 percent (13,083 to 10,037) among Iowa boys.

* * * * *

So, why the decline?

"I'm not sure there's any one reason," said Gary Ross, assistant director at the Iowa Girls High School Athletic Union. "I think there are various reasons."

Within basketball circles, club volleyball is a popular scapegoat -- warranted or not -- with its competing winter schedule. A newly sanctioned winter sport, girls wrestling has exploded in popularity.

Dacey said, "I don't think it's fair to just blame club volleyball. Maybe basketball is hurting basketball, too."

"At young ages, you don't see a lot of town ball teams anymore. So there's a big talent gap. If you're not playing in third or fourth grade, you're way behind."

"And you can't hide on the basketball court."

Many of the top female athletes in Eastern Iowa still play basketball and volleyball. That includes Libby Fandel of Cedar Rapids Xavier, Chloe Meester and Sydney Huber of Mount Vernon, Jayden Kuper of Monticello, Brooke Krogmann of West Delaware and Averie Lower of Clear Creek Amana.

"In basketball, a lot of girls don't want to put in the work," said Kuper, who will play basketball at the University of Missouri at St. Louis. "You're running up and down, non-stop. If you want to be a good shooter, you've got to shoot."

"Plus, volleyball is a two-month season, and basketball is four months."

University of Iowa coach Jan Jensen expanded on that: "Basketball is hard. You run a lot, it's physical and it's a long season."

* * * * *

Coaches and administrators agree, one of the most critical barometers to a successful girls' basketball program comes long before high school.

"There have to be the beginnings of a relationship between the head coach and the younger kids, and it can't just be summer camps," Ross said. "The coach and the high school kids have to be connected with the younger kids."

Klett added, "Sometimes, a lot depends on who the youth coach is."

Dacey pointed out that the recreation center at Williamsburg has installed kid-friendly 8-foot rims.

"So we'll lower the rims, use smaller balls and let the music play," she said.

It's the formidable youth -- the elementary and middle-school players mesmerized by Caitlin Clark, Audi Crooks and others -- who might ignite a rebound in participation.

"I'm hopeful," Ross said.

If the so-called "Clark effect" takes hold, it won't be immediate.

"It's going to come from the first-, second-, third-, fourth-, fifth-graders," Jensen said. "It's about fundamentals....dribbling, pivoting, lowering the hoop so they can shoot the right way."

* * * * *

Sports, they say, are cyclical. And while six schools are taking a varsity hiatus this winter, Ross pointed out two schools -- Twin Cedars and River Valley -- are back this season after taking last year off.

Plus, "I think at a skill level, the top level is as good as it's ever been," he said.

As for Central City.....

Breitfelder said that 12 girls played 7th and 8th grade ball this season, and we're hoping to have a JV team next year. We have open-gym opportunities for all of our students."

Who's Participating in What?
Iowa high school participation numbers for 2023-24 in girls' sports

1. Volleyball (11,532)
2. Track & Field (10,053)
3. Softball (7,500)
4. Basketball (6,179)
5. Soccer (5,246)
6. Cross Country (4,141)
7. Tennis (3,478)
8. Golf (3,072)
9. Wrestling (2,935)
10. Swimming & Diving (1,461)
11. Bowling (1,218)
12. Football (67)
 
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Nebraska participation numbers in girls sports (from the NSAA) for 2023-24

1. Track & Field (7,284)
2. Volleyball (6,801)
3. Basketball (4,941)
4. Soccer (2,587)
5. Softball (2,581)
6. Cross Country (1,984)
7. Tennis (1,770)
8. Wrestling (1,704)
9. Golf (1,384)
10. Cheerleading/Spirit (1,078)
11. Swimming & Diving (881)
12. Bowling (546)
13. Football (44)
 
Just spouting off the cuff here, is the decline specific to girls basketball due to the increased popularity of girls wrestling? I know there is a decline in participation overall, but it seems like that might be one of the bigger contributing factors. What are the winter options, basketball, wrestling, swim/dive, or nothing? It seems like there are more options for fall/spring sports than winter.
 
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I would contend most of the decline in basketball stems from the increase in popularity of volleyball, especially in the last 15-20 years. More athletes are playing volleyball year round and opting out of basketball for sure if not both basketball and track.
 
I would contend most of the decline in basketball stems from the increase in popularity of volleyball, especially in the last 15-20 years. More athletes are playing volleyball year round and opting out of basketball for sure if not both basketball and track.
NSAA should do something about the very very limited options for girls in the spring season and look to move maybe softball to spring In girls sports especially in smaller schools its track or nothing else to do
 
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Basketball is declining for a lot of reasons. Popularity of wrestling and club volleyball is certainly one. The game as a whole has become so physical with defensive effort far outpacing offensive skills which doesnt lead to appeal to many. Frankly watching HS basketball is rough many nights. Starting little Susie in Kindergarten and having her play 5on5 on a 10 foot hoop with a 28.5 ball in 3rd grade isn't good for the long term of the sport either. Kids develop physicaly at different rates and sadly some kids have played for 4 years by 3rd grade and haven't seen success and give up not much longer afterwards.
 
NSAA should do something about the very very limited options for girls in the spring season and look to move maybe softball to spring In girls sports especially in smaller schools its track or nothing else to do
My understanding is that softball and baseball will never be in the same season. This is primarily for 2 reasons
1- There are several umpires that do both baseball and softball. Putting them in the same season will make the shortage we already have even bigger.
2- Many schools use the same field for baseball and softball. Playing in the same season makes scheduling harder for sure. Probably more importantly, it makes practicing harder in a shared space.
 
My understanding is that softball and baseball will never be in the same season. This is primarily for 2 reasons
1- There are several umpires that do both baseball and softball. Putting them in the same season will make the shortage we already have even bigger.
2- Many schools use the same field for baseball and softball. Playing in the same season makes scheduling harder for sure. Probably more importantly, it makes practicing harder in a shared space.
I can understand the umpire thing BUT same field ? that has to be down to less than 30 schools in the state and those schools need to update badly
 
Multiple factors:
1) Girls wrestling has played a part. Not because they are taking starters or anything, but they are taking depth from teams at the lower class levels. yes girls wrestling being sanctioned is new but girls youth wrestling has been exploding over the last the several years. Which is why it became sanctioned by the NSAA.
2) Sports specialization. This is has happening in boys sports as well. It is a conversation for a different thread. Football numbers for example are taking a hit for example. But girls sports like volleyball, basketball, softball, and soccer have ben polarized into year round sports. I would say it's less about those sports teams/coaches forcing those girls to be one sport athletes and more about those girls CHOOSING to be one sport athletes because the opportunities exist now. Parents are also ok with this because it simplifies their schedules makes their kids happy, Anyone can start a club team, leagues and tournaments are everywhere. Kids are going down to various surrounding states during the winter and playing in softball tournaments, playing indoors on indoor football/soccer fields.
2b) I go back to the parents side of things. They are letting kids make these decisions or pushing them to make these decisions. Not all, but a lot of them are good with their child making decisions as a junior high kid to gravitate towards one sports. It's hard to experience failure as a young athlete, so kids don't like doing these they aren't great at. With sports specialization happening at an earlier age, kids are figuring out that they aren't great in some of these sports compared to other kids who do all the extra skill work and specialization, so they get out. It used to be where you see kids play all the sports through their freshman and sophomore year before they drop off. Now you're lucky to get them to compete in junior high. The quality of each sport is going up because of the specialization, but the participation numbers are taking a hit.
 
Multiple factors:
1) Girls wrestling has played a part. Not because they are taking starters or anything, but they are taking depth from teams at the lower class levels. yes girls wrestling being sanctioned is new but girls youth wrestling has been exploding over the last the several years. Which is why it became sanctioned by the NSAA.
2) Sports specialization. This is has happening in boys sports as well. It is a conversation for a different thread. Football numbers for example are taking a hit for example. But girls sports like volleyball, basketball, softball, and soccer have ben polarized into year round sports. I would say it's less about those sports teams/coaches forcing those girls to be one sport athletes and more about those girls CHOOSING to be one sport athletes because the opportunities exist now. Parents are also ok with this because it simplifies their schedules makes their kids happy, Anyone can start a club team, leagues and tournaments are everywhere. Kids are going down to various surrounding states during the winter and playing in softball tournaments, playing indoors on indoor football/soccer fields.
2b) I go back to the parents side of things. They are letting kids make these decisions or pushing them to make these decisions. Not all, but a lot of them are good with their child making decisions as a junior high kid to gravitate towards one sports. It's hard to experience failure as a young athlete, so kids don't like doing these they aren't great at. With sports specialization happening at an earlier age, kids are figuring out that they aren't great in some of these sports compared to other kids who do all the extra skill work and specialization, so they get out. It used to be where you see kids play all the sports through their freshman and sophomore year before they drop off. Now you're lucky to get them to compete in junior high. The quality of each sport is going up because of the specialization, but the participation numbers are taking a hit.
Agree with many of the things you said. I'll piggy back off of something you said, "hard to experience failure." People wont want to hear this but much easier for a kid to go play volleyball than basketball. Name a sport where your opponent fails and you score points off of it? An opponent in volleyball serves it out hits it in the net, you get a point. That doesn't exist in basketball. Teams can turn it over but you still have to be able to have skills and go to the other end and score. Much easier for kids to stand on one side of a net and let someone else fail and still win. Basketball is a hard fine motor skill. You must be able to dribble, pass, score while at the same time someone is there along side of you. Unfortunately, kids are getting away from dealing with all that, oh yea kids have to run back and forth, up and down the court while doing those fine skills. You're crazy if you think kids don't look at that. "I have to run up and down a court for an entire game?" I wish things were different but they are not. Wish I had more answers to help the game of basketball in our state but I don't. Only going to get worse IMO!
 
My understanding is that softball and baseball will never be in the same season. This is primarily for 2 reasons
1- There are several umpires that do both baseball and softball. Putting them in the same season will make the shortage we already have even bigger.
2- Many schools use the same field for baseball and softball. Playing in the same season makes scheduling harder for sure. Probably more importantly, it makes practicing harder in a shared space.
I'm a SB umpire, of all the ones I know, maybe 2-3 cross over & do baseball. Lots of experienced & good umps are doing college softball in the spring.
 
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Agree with many of the things you said. I'll piggy back off of something you said, "hard to experience failure." People wont want to hear this but much easier for a kid to go play volleyball than basketball. Name a sport where your opponent fails and you score points off of it? An opponent in volleyball serves it out hits it in the net, you get a point. That doesn't exist in basketball. Teams can turn it over but you still have to be able to have skills and go to the other end and score. Much easier for kids to stand on one side of a net and let someone else fail and still win. Basketball is a hard fine motor skill. You must be able to dribble, pass, score while at the same time someone is there along side of you. Unfortunately, kids are getting away from dealing with all that, oh yea kids have to run back and forth, up and down the court while doing those fine skills. You're crazy if you think kids don't look at that. "I have to run up and down a court for an entire game?" I wish things were different but they are not. Wish I had more answers to help the game of basketball in our state but I don't. Only going to get worse IMO!
Basketball is hard. It's a lot of physicality. A lot of running. To be adequate, you still have to commit a lot of time to individual skill work (shooting, dribbling, footwork, etc). It's a big turn off for a lot of kids anymore. Couple that with you can't really hide a lack of skills on a court with only five players.....to be a decent team, all five really need to have some level of competency.

Club volleyball scheduling is also hard to deal with, in my experience. To the point that the time demands are almost unyielding and not accommodating at all with other high school athletics.
 
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My understanding is that softball and baseball will never be in the same season. This is primarily for 2 reasons
1- There are several umpires that do both baseball and softball. Putting them in the same season will make the shortage we already have even bigger.
2- Many schools use the same field for baseball and softball. Playing in the same season makes scheduling harder for sure. Probably more importantly, it makes practicing harder in a shared space.
On point 2, I would not agree with "many" sharing a field. I can't actually think of any, but I'll refrain from saying that there aren't any because I'm sure I'd end up being wrong. There are a LOT of differences that make sharing a field pretty difficult.
 
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I'd love to compare trend lines. Is there data on the NSAA website going back years? How far?
This information is available in the "Publications and Order Forms" section of the NSAA site (Linked Below). If you scroll through the NSAA Yearly Record Books, the last page of each of those record books shows the participation #s for each sport. I am working on a project right now that is tracking the trends in football.
 
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On point 2, I would not agree with "many" sharing a field. I can't actually think of any, but I'll refrain from saying that there aren't any because I'm sure I'd end up being wrong. There are a LOT of differences that make sharing a field pretty difficult.
I couldn't think of any either. I know that there are likely a few baseball teams that play on a lime infield, but the overwhelming majority are played on grass infields. You actually CAN'T play softball on a grass infield baseball field. The bases are much shorter in softball as well as the whole pitching mound situation.
 
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I couldn't think of any either. I know that there are likely a few baseball teams that play on a lime infield, but the overwhelming majority are played on grass infields. You actually CAN'T play softball on a grass infield baseball field. The bases are much shorter in softball as well as the whole pitching mound situation.
Malcolm plays on a dirt infield (I don't think there's any lime) with outfield dimensions better suited to softball! The mound situation is the one that makes me think it's about impossible to share a field.
 
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