Possible conference shakeup?

[Sean Callahan]

Was that after Bellevue and Millard expanded? Interesting, never knew that.

Still dont understand the point of having such large conferences at the high school level however. Why be in a conference with schools that you dont even play all of the members over a 4 year period. The metro may be differant but some of the small school conferences 16+ members never schedule each other.

Millard North and Bellevue West were around for most of that. Not Millard West or obviously Papio South. The RCC formed after the NSAA made Class A smaller, then it bumped Gross, Ralston and others to B. The two Council Bluffs teams also had a hard time competing in the Metro, and then with Skutt opening, it was a natural to form the RCC with Roncalli, SSC and Beatrice. Gross and Ralston played at least 2-3 years in the Metro as Class B schools. They played full Class A schedules and then would only play B competition in football and even basketball during districts and state during the early 90's.

 

[TC53]

Do you forget that Gross, Ralston, CB AL, CB TJ, Omaha Ryan and Roncalli were all in the Metro at one time? I believe they were actually bigger at that time. They used to have two Divisions in football and a conference championship game before the inception of the NSAA playoffs.

You forgot Boys Town. Metro was 22 schools when Millard North opened. At that point, they had three divisions American, National and Federal.

Here's the OWH run-down of Metro history from the anniversary year:

1964: League formed with Omaha Benson, Beveridge (Burke), Central, North, South and Technical; Council Bluffs Abraham Lincoln and Thomas Jefferson; and Bellevue, Boys Town, Creighton Prep, Omaha Ryan and Omaha Westside

1966: Omaha Rummel (now Roncalli) joins

1973: Omaha Bryan and Omaha Northwest join

1974: Boys Town withdraws

1975: Omaha Gross joins

1977: Millard, Ralston, Papillion and new school Bellevue West join; all-girls Omaha Marian joins as associate member

1981: New school Millard North joins

1983: Ryan closes

1984: Technical closes

1985: Roncalli withdraws

1995: Ralston, Gross, Abraham Lincoln and Thomas Jefferson leave for new River Cities Conference; new school Millard West joins

2003: New school Papillion-La Vista South joins

Current membership: Bellevue East and West; Millard North, South, and West; Omaha Benson, Bryan, Burke, Central, North, Northwest and South; Papillion-La Vista and Papillion-La Vista South; Omaha Creighton Prep; Omaha Marian; Omaha Westside

 

[Alum-Ni]

You forgot Boys Town. Metro was 22 schools when Millard North opened. At that point, they had three divisions American, National and Federal.

Here's the OWH run-down of Metro history from the anniversary year:

1964: League formed with Omaha Benson, Beveridge (Burke), Central, North, South and Technical; Council Bluffs Abraham Lincoln and Thomas Jefferson; and Bellevue, Boys Town, Creighton Prep, Omaha Ryan and Omaha Westside

1966: Omaha Rummel (now Roncalli) joins

1973: Omaha Bryan and Omaha Northwest join

1974: Boys Town withdraws

1975: Omaha Gross joins

1977: Millard, Ralston, Papillion and new school Bellevue West join; all-girls Omaha Marian joins as associate member

1981: New school Millard North joins

1983: Ryan closes

1984: Technical closes

1985: Roncalli withdraws

1995: Ralston, Gross, Abraham Lincoln and Thomas Jefferson leave for new River Cities Conference; new school Millard West joins

2003: New school Papillion-La Vista South joins

Current membership: Bellevue East and West; Millard North, South, and West; Omaha Benson, Bryan, Burke, Central, North, Northwest and South; Papillion-La Vista and Papillion-La Vista South; Omaha Creighton Prep; Omaha Marian; Omaha Westside

Now that you mention it, I do remember the three divisions in the Metro

 

[kaz36]

Wahoo has voted to officially join.

 

[northeastNebraska]

Big win for CHS. Travel just diminished greatly.

 

[northeastNebraska]

@Alum-Ni with this move, here are questions I have.

-What happens to the GNAC?

-Does Holdrege and McCook head to the Southwest Conference? The fit better in that league then their current leagues (especially Holdrege).

-Could Hastings High take Holdrege’s spot in the Central 10? I know it’s in the same league as AC, but they don’t have a lot of options.

-What happens to Lex and North Platte?

 

[PowerTfootball]

Interesting comment by the Beatrice AD about competing against only public schools. It would seem to me that you would need to complete against them in your non-conference schedule.

Same AD that got Kearney Catholic voted out of the Lou Platte. As far as I heard

 

[speedy66]

@Alum-Ni with this move, here are questions I have.

-What happens to the GNAC?

-Does Holdrege and McCook head to the Southwest Conference? The fit better in that league then their current leagues (especially Holdrege).

-Could Hastings High take Holdrege’s spot in the Central 10? I know it’s in the same league as AC, but they don’t have a lot of options.

-What happens to Lex and North Platte?

I know the question was directed to Alum-ni and not me but here’s some thoughts on the SWC question. McCook is already a member of the Southwest Conference. They joined a few years ago so the number of schools in the SWC is currently at 8. I guess I would have 2 questions about an invitation to Holdrege. First, does the SWC want a 9 member conference, and secondly, do they want to invite a school to join who has previously left them

 

[northeastNebraska]

I know the question was directed to Alum-ni and not me but here’s some thoughts on the SWC question. McCook is already a member of the Southwest Conference. They joined a few years ago so the number of schools in the SWC is currently at 8. I guess I would have 2 questions about an invitation to Holdrege. First, does the SWC want a 9 member conference, and secondly, do they want to invite a school to join who has previously left them

I could see Ainsworth leaving for NVC maybe? That would keep them at 8.

 

[runningback43]

Lex should have never been kicked out of the SWC. I would be surprised to see if Lex or Holdredge would come back to the SWC.

 

[PowerTfootball]

Would Chase County be a better option to go to SWC?

Minden being in the SWC makes no sense. They should go to the Lou Platte.

 

[hailvictors2]

Ainsworth and Valentine in the SWC are what doesn't make sense. Neither are "south" at all...

 

[PowerTfootball]

It would make more sense for Valentine to get into the western trails. Ainsworth to be in NVC?

Chase County go to SWC

I also think schools should not be able to be dual affiliated. There are a few schools that do it. Bridgeport and Kimball are both in 2 conferences

 

[runningback43]

The SWC was the only conference that was willing to accept Valentine and Ainsworth. I agree that Chase County would be a good fit in the SWC.

 

[northeastNebraska]

The SWC was the only conference that was willing to accept Valentine and Ainsworth. I agree that Chase County would be a good fit in the SWC.

I can’t see Chase County leaving the SPVA. They’ll be C2 in everything in a few years it seems the way their numbers are trending.

 

[runningback43]

I also don't think Chase County will leave the SPVA. They would be a good fit in the SWC though if they ever did.

 

[kaz36]

Looks like the Trailblazer is already looking to add schools.
https://www.newschannelnebraska.com...erence-could-pick-up-more-se-nebraska-schools

 

[northeastNebraska]

Looks like the Trailblazer is already looking to add schools.
https://www.newschannelnebraska.com...erence-could-pick-up-more-se-nebraska-schools

Hastings is looking for a life line with the GNAC on its deathbed. Surprised Falls City isn’t being discussed. Too small?

What would be interesting is if they could pull a team from the Central Conference. That could cause major shifts IMO.

 

[hailvictors2]

Hastings is looking for a life line with the GNAC on its deathbed. Surprised Falls City isn’t being discussed. Too small?

What would be interesting is if they could pull a team from the Central Conference. That could cause major shifts IMO.

Falls City needs to replace Wahoo, Platteview, or A-G in the Cap Conference. That would be a much better fit for size

 

[northeastNebraska]

Hypothetically if Crete (Central Conference), Ashland-Greenwood (Capitol Conference), Hastings (GNAC) and Blair (EMC) go to this new league. What direction do these four conferences go?

I think the Central 10 would drop to 8 and Holdrege would try to get in the SWC. Geographically and demographically they fit better in the SWC.

A-G would leaving would the Capitol with 5 members...

The GNAC is dead already.

As many haves stated, if Blair leaves does the EMC and RCC combine?

 

[TC53]

My gut says if the RCC private schools were interested in the EMC, then Blair wouldn’t be looking around, and the EMC wouldn’t have been making the invites they have made.

Weird to think the EMC is struggling but they are at 6 and looking at the future when Elkhorn and Elk North grow into the Metro and they are down to four.

Is Crete really interested in getting out of the Central? The EMC didn’t fit them at all, but the Trailblazer looks more like them. Still a lot of history and rivalries in Central and they seem to fit demographically and geographically.

Surprised EMC didn’t approach Seward. Feels more like them than Crete.

The western schools in GNAC are prepared to go Western if it falls apart. North Platte even played in Western basketball tourney last weekend.

 

[hailvictors2]

Trailblazer will cap at 8. The article says 10, but 8 is the limit. Part of the reason Hastings was invited is because it gets the conference to 7...the Ashland-Greenwood has to poop or get off the pot. If A-G and Hastings are in it will mean Crete and whoever else are out.

 

[kaz36]

Falls City needs to replace Wahoo, Platteview, or A-G in the Cap Conference. That would be a much better fit for size

Falls City and Auburn would seem like no brainers to join the Capitol Conference. Maybe even someone like JCC? I think Ashland Greenwood is hesitant because they are still C1 in all sports. I assume they are growing and may eventually be in class B someday, but may not want to get overmatched out of the gate in a B conference. Does anyone know how AG is trending?

 

[northeastNebraska]

Falls City and Auburn would seem like no brainers to join the Capitol Conference. Maybe even someone like JCC? I think Ashland Greenwood is hesitant because they are still C1 in all sports. I assume they are growing and may eventually be in class B someday, but may not want to get overmatched out of the gate in a B conference. Does anyone know how AG is trending?

One would think AG would be moving to Class B soon with the rapid growth of Ashland. 5-8 years away maybe?

 

[northeastNebraska]

Trailblazer will cap at 8. The article says 10, but 8 is the limit. Part of the reason Hastings was invited is because it gets the conference to 7...the Ashland-Greenwood has to poop or get off the pot. If A-G and Hastings are in it will mean Crete and whoever else are out.

Would Hastings High ever get an invite to the Central Conference? Or now with AC in they probably won’t get one?

 

[TC53]

I don't think there is mutual interest. Hastings looked into Central before AC returned there. Never got far on either end.

 

[br4life]

When North Platte came out and played in the Western Conference Tourney this past week, it felt like a good fit. It also seemed that everyone was very supportive of them being there. Competitive wise, they were on an equal level with everyone else. I see someone mentioned up above that all the western GNAC schools would come west and that leaves me with the question of McCook. Outside of North Platte and Sidney, you'd be looking at 4+ hour drives to Scottsbluff, Gering, Mitchell, Alliance, and Chadron. Would they conference or McCook want that? It'll be interesting to see the chips fall.

 

[TC53]

Whoops, that was me. McCook has its Southwest membership. Gering and Scottsbluff have the Western, and North Platte has that option. More complicated than I made it seem.

 

[kaz36]

The Nebraska Capitol Conference will be adding Logan View, Conestoga, Yutan and Louisville(already announced) for the 2020-2021 season.

 

[northeastNebraska]

The Nebraska Capitol Conference will be adding Logan View, Conestoga, Yutan and Louisville(already announced) for the 2020-2021 season.

I like the Yutan add a lot. Should have been in the league for a few years now. (Will they ever get Mead to co-op with them?)

Conestoga?....

Between Logan View and Scribner-Snyder they leave a lot of rivals in the EHC.

 

[Alum-Ni]

 

[Alum-Ni]

https://journalstar.com/sports/high...cle_4b02823e-e146-5773-a512-d500b375e5d7.html

 

[Yossarian23]

I like the Yutan add a lot. Should have been in the league for a few years now. (Will they ever get Mead to co-op with them?)

Conestoga?....

Between Logan View and Scribner-Snyder they leave a lot of rivals in the EHC.

That was an aside on your part, but my understanding (moving to Wahoo 7ish years ago) was that the cycle just before that, Mead and Yutan were all set to coop football (JH and Varsity) and it was ended pretty late into the process on the Yutan side.

Since then, Mead's numbers (as a school and in football) rebounded and there hasn't been talk since.

 

[Yossarian23]

That was an aside on your part, but my understanding (moving to Wahoo 7ish years ago) was that the cycle just before that, Mead and Yutan were all set to coop football (JH and Varsity) and it was ended pretty late into the process on the Yutan side.

Since then, Mead's numbers (as a school and in football) rebounded and there hasn't been talk since.

I should add: Mead had low numbers halfway between then and now (two cycles ago?) and then the coop talks were with Cedar Bluffs. Not sure how far it got, but from the outside + the stories I've been told, it would appear Yutan doesn't have interest in Mead

 

[kaz36]

I like the Yutan add a lot. Should have been in the league for a few years now. (Will they ever get Mead to co-op with them?)

Conestoga?....

Between Logan View and Scribner-Snyder they leave a lot of rivals in the EHC.

Anyone know how that will work with the East Husker conference? Doesn’t Logan View and Scribner Snyder only coop in certain sports? What conference will the coop play in?

 

[northeastNebraska]

Anyone know how that will work with the East Husker conference? Doesn’t Logan View and Scribner Snyder only coop in certain sports? What conference will the coop play in?

They co-op in football, volleyball, softball, and both basketballs. Wrestling and track are still separated for now.

 

[Alum-Ni]

Anyone know how that will work with the East Husker conference? Doesn’t Logan View and Scribner Snyder only coop in certain sports? What conference will the coop play in?

Logan View and Scribner-Snyder are working on a full consolidation I believe...........if that happens, then both would obviously be in the Capitol Conference.

 

[Coach Houchin]

2020/21 Capital Conference:
Arlington
AG
Conestoga
DC West
Logan View
Louisville
Ft. Calhoun
RC
Syracuse
Yutan

 

[nenebskers]

2020/21 Capital Conference:
Arlington
AG
Conestoga
DC West
Logan View
Louisville
Ft. Calhoun
RC
Syracuse
Yutan

That's a good looking conference that makes sense geographically, size of schools, and 10 is a perfect number. Down the road if Ashland-Greenwood grows and gets out maybe North Bend Central moves in?

 

[Alum-Ni]

So a recap of where leagues are right now and the changes that have been announced so far:

Red = new team
Strikethrough = team leaving

Capitol Conference
Arlington
Ashland-Greenwood
Conestoga
Douglas County West
Fort Calhoun
Logan View/Scribner-Snyder
Louisville
Platteview
Raymond Central
Syracuse
Wahoo
Yutan

Centennial Conference
Boys Town (boys only)
Columbus Scotus
David City Aquinas
Fremont Bergan
Grand Island Central Catholic
Hastings St. Cecilia
Kearney Catholic
Lincoln Christian
Lincoln Lutheran
Omaha Concordia
Wahoo Neumann

Central Conference
Adams Central
Aurora
Columbus Lakeview
Crete
Grand Island Northwest
Holdrege
Lexington
Schuyler
Seward
York

Crossroads Conference
Bruning-Davenport/Shickley
Cross County
Dorchester
East Butler
Exeter-Milligan
Giltner
Hampton
High Plains
McCool Junction
Meridian
Nebraska Lutheran
Osceola
Shelby/Rising City

East Central Nebraska Conference
Auburn
Conestoga
Elmwood-Murdock
Falls City
Freeman
Johnson County Central
Louisville
Malcolm
Mead
Palmyra
Weeping Water
Yutan

East Husker Conference
Bancroft-Rosalie/Lyons-Decatur
Clarkson/Leigh
Howells-Dodge
Humphrey/Lindsay Holy Family
Logan View/Scribner-Snyder
Madison
North Bend
Oakland-Craig
Pender
Stanton
Tekamah-Herman
Twin River
West Point-Beemer
Wisner-Pilger

Eastern Midlands Conference
Bennington
Blair
Elkhorn
Elkhorn North
Nebraska City
Norris
Plattsmouth
Waverly

Fort Kearny Conference
Amherst
Ansley/Litchfield
Axtell
Elm Creek
Hi-Line
Loomis
Overton
Pleasanton
Sumner-Eddyville-Miller
Wilcox-Hildreth

Frontier Conference
Boys Town (girls only)
Cedar Bluffs
College View Academy
Cornerstone Christian
Heartland Christian (Iowa)
Omaha Brownell-Talbot
Omaha Christian
Parkview Christian
Whiting (Iowa)

Goldenrod Conference
Burwell
Central Valley
Elba
Fullerton
Heartland Lutheran
Humphrey St. Francis
Nebraska Christian
Palmer
Riverside
Spalding Academy
St. Edward

Greater Nebraska Athletic Conference
Columbus
Gering
Hastings
McCook
North Platte
Scottsbluff

Heartland Athletic Conference
Columbus
Fremont
Grand Island
Kearney
Lincoln East
Lincoln High
Lincoln North Star
Lincoln Northeast
Lincoln Pius X
Lincoln Southeast
Lincoln Southwest
Norfolk

Independents
Falls City
Lutheran High Northeast
Omaha Nation
Omaha Street School

Lewis & Clark Conference
Allen
Bloomfield
Creighton
Emerson-Hubbard
Hartington-Newcastle
Homer
Laurel-Concord-Coleridge
Osmond
Plainview
Ponca
Randolph
Wakefield
Walthill
Wausa
Winnebago
Winside
Wynot

LouPlatte Conference
Arcadia/Loup City
Central City
Centura
Doniphan-Trumbull
Gibbon
Ord
Ravenna
St. Paul
Wood River

Metro Conference
Bellevue East
Bellevue West
Elkhorn South
Gretna
Millard North
Millard South
Millard West
Omaha Benson
Omaha Bryan
Omaha Burke
Omaha Central
Omaha Creighton Prep
Omaha Marian
Omaha North
Omaha Northwest
Omaha South
Omaha Westside
Papillion-LaVista
Papillion-LaVista South

Mid-Nebraska Activities Conference
Anselmo-Merna
Arthur County
Brady
Cody-Kilgore
Hyannis
Mullen
Sandhills Valley
Sandhills/Thedford
South Loup
Twin Loup

Mid-State Conference
Battle Creek
Boone Central/Newman Grove
Crofton
Guardian Angels Central Catholic
Hartington Cedar Catholic
Norfolk Catholic
O'Neill
Pierce
Wayne

Minuteman Activities Conference
Bayard
Banner County
Creek Valley
Garden County
Leyton
Minatare
Potter-Dix
South Platte

MUDECAS
Bruning-Davenport/Shickley
Diller-Odell
Exeter-Milligan
Falls City Sacred Heart
Freeman
Humboldt-Table Rock-Steinauer
Johnson-Brock
Johnson County Central
Lewiston
Meridian
Palmyra
Parkview Christian
Pawnee City
Southern
Sterling
Tri County

Niobrara Valley Conference
Atkinson West Holt
Boyd County
Chambers/Wheeler Central
Elgin/Elgin Pope John
Elkhorn Valley
Neligh-Oakdale
Niobrara/Verdigre
North Central
O'Neill St. Mary's
Santee
Stuart
Summerland

Panhandle Conference
Crawford
Edgemont (South Dakota)
Hay Springs
Hemingford
Morrill
Sioux County

Pioneer Conference
Diller-Odell
Falls City Sacred Heart
Friend
Humboldt-Table Rock-Steinauer
Johnson-Brock
Lewiston
Nebraska City Lourdes
Pawnee City
Southern
Sterling
Tri County

Republican Plains Activities Conference
Alma
Arapahoe
Bertrand
Cambridge
Dundy County-Stratton
Hitchcock County
Maxwell
Maywood/Hayes Center
Medicine Valley
Paxton
Southern Valley
Southwest
Wallace
Wauneta-Palisade

River Cities Conference
Beatrice
Elkhorn Mt. Michael
Omaha Duchesne
Omaha Gross
Omaha Mercy
Omaha Roncalli
Omaha Skutt
Ralston
South Sioux City

South Platte Valley Association
Bridgeport
Chase County
Hershey
Kimball
North Platte St. Patrick's
Perkins County
Sutherland

Southern Nebraska Conference
Centennial
David City
Fairbury
Fillmore Central
Heartland
Milford
Sandy Creek
Superior
Sutton
Thayer Central
Wilber-Clatonia

Southwest Conference
Ainsworth
Broken Bow
Cozad
Gothenburg
McCook
Minden
Ogallala
Valentine

Trailblazer Conference
Beatrice
Nebraska City
Platteview
Plattsmouth
Ralston
Wahoo

Twin Valley Conference
Blue Hill
Deshler
Franklin
Harvard
Kenesaw
Lawrence-Nelson
Red Cloud
Shelton
Silver Lake

Western Conference
Alliance
Chadron
Gering
Mitchell
Scottsbluff
Sidney

Western Trails Conference
Bayard
Bridgeport
Gordon-Rushville
Hemingford
Kimball
Mitchell
Morrill