I'm not against opting down in the current format but since you asked, how about literally every game an average or poor team loses to a team that is from c2 classification? They lose and miss out on the chance that they would have been scheduled against someone more their caliber and of equal size where they would have had a chance....no?
How hard is it to comprehend my post? You ask a literal question you get a literal answer. Not only are you freaking out over nothing since I said I'm not against opting down, I just think your arguments are a little out there. How hard is it to understand that a team scheduled against a drop down team and loses may have been scheduled against a team of their caliber and had a chance to win? You asked for teams negatively affected, I just gave you a perfectly acceptable and rational answer that is fact, and you are choosing not to face the reality of it because "oh well they suck anyway". By that rationale all the drop down teams should either stay c2 or not even play because oh well they suck anyway (not my argument just pointing out how you are being a hypocrite). Literally go look at any team that lost to a drop down, there's your data.
Actually it's 26 with 11 varsity caliber players to pick from. I'm not saying they are only suiting 11. I'm saying that there are only 11 of the 26 that have any business being on a varsity football field. Far fetched...that's Wakefield's scenario. They will only suit 21 for Laurel due to injuries. They are competitive in 8 man finally after 3 years (3-5 and 2-6 in 1st cycle) and their kids are enjoying football again. Had they been in 11 man where they "are supposed to be" they would of been sitting dead center of the Cedar/Crofton/Battle Creek/Stanton murders row, and they'd probably be in a Laurel/Homer situation of possibly not being able to field a team to finish the season or they'd be putting players in harms way that aren't ready for Friday night football. It's a school to school scenario, times have changed and it's time for our classification numbers to change, period.
need for a few,effecting over 100 teams , because they opt down C2 now has a top end near 135, just 4 years ago it was 119 and in D-1 it makes districts with 2 of the 5 not able to make playoffs, small schools risking players in games that only have consequences for one team and 32 in the playoffs with over 15% of the teams eligible and in D2 it raises its top end also, because 11 schools have a problem, now over 120 have a negative effect from it, even a small negative is to much. This why NO other State in USA allows this. They dont submit to the crying and poor me crap.
Thats a 24% increase in C2 enrollment eligibility, thats a lot more than not far off and that 24% increase is do to the problem of other teams and it effects many other teams because of there problem, to many bleeding hearts in Nebraska, poor me, poor my school.
By all means I should just give in, and let the State of Nebraska believe this is the norm in every State and not point out the facts. What was I thinking having a debate on a discussion board. I am sure they have places for discussions, I dont know maybe someone should make a message board where people could discuss this, you know we could call it Huskerpreps and start a football discussion board. A place like that would be pretty cool.
Not opting down, just the same as the rest of the world, yes I do believe the 8-man number needs raised and I do like the idea of 9-man, but if we stay right where we are more teams will opt down and soon D1 will be over 35% of the teams not even eligible and C2 will will see an increase in enrollment to over 145 causing the same effect in 2 to 4 years with more teams opting down
Any negative effect on any team due to their problem, is to much ANY, Its thats schools problem, they play C2 or they dont play at all, why should any school even have 5% chance of negative effect due to Homer and Laurel want to develop players for future teams, every kid on that team has the open enrollment option to play football at another school and if not then dont play
There is no debate happening, you just continue to make the same point and not concede anything. The rules are the rules, maybe they will change, I am not sure how many games you have seen the opt down schools play in 11 man, but it is not a pretty sight, not every school has football tradition and numbers, I think Nebraska has done the right thing from a player safety stand point and it has not had a negative effect on the playoffs as a whole, other than possibly some seeding, however most first and second round games are blow outs anyway in D1.
If it failed, it wasn't just the class D coaches that said so. I do think 98 is high. It should go to boys numbers counting only.
Correct....majority of C1, B, and A said "NO" too because the simply don't care about small school football.
Your statement is wishy washy at best "No effect on playoffs, other than seeding" Not ever school has a football tradition, and instead work to build one, your okay with opting down to try to build one, and okay if it effects other teams and classes get larger enrollments
Once again thats Madisions problem, not every school in the state
I would say I have seen about 14 teams in C2 this year and another 10 teams in D1 and 1 A and 1 C-1
what teams have been most impressive in C2? that is what i mostly follow
Wilber, Battle Creek Central city, HCC, Centennial all look good, I think the title is wide open as the comp in the top 10 is very close
yes, no dominant team w/o aquinas. district 4 and 5 teams will be battle tested, i can see the champ coming out of there, or someone else gets hot (central city). It will be fun if Wilber gets to mix it up with BC or other district 4 team
Wow...simply wow. Not just Madison's problem. It's also the problem of the team that plays them and possibly the teams they may have to forfeit against in the next 2 weeks. Been a problem for not just Laurel and Homer, but all the teams that have lost games to them. Not to mention Weeping Water, Elwood (who canceled their entire season), and numerous other cancellations I'm sure I'm not even aware of. It is a problem that is impacting a lot of schools, not just "a few".
I also wish teams had the choice not to accept the forfeit, as you only need 8 games, Stanton missed the playoffs last year, if I remember right, because they had to count a forfeit against LCC, which lowered there points, but this is a totally different subject.
Yes this is total crap. Since you miss out on a game it should be the team's choice whether or not to take the points.
Call it bleeding heart if you want...I'm really o.k. with that and you can keep right on with your ignorant uninformed outsider mentality of what these towns have gone through and the tough decision they had to make. You have ZERO clue of what has gone on in these programs.
