Working on it! Lourdes beating J-B also changes things.

How does the NPSP win over Arapahoe shake things up?

ClkTwr2011 said:

With this in mind, I think maybe a 90 School Day rule might make more sense. A kid that enrolls in January should certainly be allowed to play sports after sitting a Semester. I might be overlooking something. 180 School Days seems excessive with this in mind.

Thanks for the clarification.

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The current rule is 90 days if you’re not on the May 1 list. Maybe they should get rid of the May 1 list. 90 days of ineligibility if there isn’t a change of domicile.

runningback43 said:

A mid term transfer won’t be eligible until the following year if there is a 180 day rule. 180 days refers to schools days not days on the calendar.

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With this in mind, I think maybe a 90 School Day rule might make more sense. A kid that enrolls in January should certainly be allowed to play sports after sitting a Semester. I might be overlooking something. 180 School Days seems excessive with this in mind.

Thanks for the clarification.

ClkTwr2011 said:

Mid Term transfer will be able to play football in the fall. I like it.

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A mid term transfer won’t be eligible until the following year if there is a 180 day rule. 180 days refers to schools days not days on the calendar.

No, students in Iowa are ineligible to participate in varsity athletics for 90 school days after transferring schools, unless an exception applies:

• General Transfer Rule
  The General Transfer Rule in the Iowa Administrative Code (IAC) states that students are ineligible for 90 school days after transferring between member schools of the Iowa High School Athletic Association (IHSAA) or Iowa Girls' High School Athletic Union (IGHSAU).
  
  
  
• Exceptions
  There are exceptions to the General Transfer Rule, including if a student's parental residence changes at the same time as the transfer. Students who move into a new district are also immediately eligible.
  
  
  
• Participation during the ineligibility period
  Students can still participate in practice and play on teams other than varsity during the 90-day period.
  
  

The 90-day rule is intended to discourage students from transferring schools just for its athletic programs. Some have called for extending the ineligibility period to 180 school days to force athletes to sit out entire seasons.

highschoolfootballnut said:

A solution can be found, the transfer is for better academics, so 180 days sound like a good solution and regardless from when you transfer you set 180 days You want to play football at a different school with out living in that district and you wait to transfer schools until August then you sit and you can be on the team, you can play JV but no varsity events 180 days and you get all the academics you want and football just at the JV level.

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Mid Term transfer will be able to play football in the fall. I like it.

ClkTwr2011 said:

I agree.

I also like that it is a discussion rather than a pissing match. I appreciate that.

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A solution can be found, the transfer is for better academics, so 180 days sound like a good solution and regardless from when you transfer you set 180 days You want to play football at a different school with out living in that district and you wait to transfer schools until August then you sit and you can be on the team, you can play JV but no varsity events 180 days and you get all the academics you want and football just at the JV level.

Mr. Irrelevent said:

I love the discussion because we may only find an answer by bouncing ideas off one another.

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I agree.

I also like that it is a discussion rather than a pissing match. I appreciate that.

Composite rankings

CLASS A

Contenders
Columbus (18-8) - 3

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CLASS B

Contenders
(none)

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CLASS C1

Contenders
David City (17-7) - 2
Omaha Concordia (20-12) - 1

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CLASS C2

Contenders
Wahoo Neumann (18-10) - 4
Fremont Bergan (20-10) - 1

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CLASS D1

Contenders
Howells-Dodge (14-9) - 4
High Plains (18-5) - 2
Alma (17-8) - 1

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CLASS D2

Contenders
Loomis (14-6) - 3
Wynot (12-8) - 1

Mr. Irrelevent said:

I believe it's back to working. It looks as though it is this morning.

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Yep - saw that! Thank you!

GoSkers3 said:

Appreciate you doing this!

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I believe it's back to working. It looks as though it is this morning.

CLASS C

First Round

Hastings St. Cecilia 13, David City Aquinas 5 (6 inn)
Douglas County West 11, Fort Calhoun 0 (5 inn)
Guardian Angels Central Catholic 12, Ashland-Greenwood 4 (6 inn)
Wahoo Neumann 9, NEN 5

Second Round
Douglas County West 11, Hastings St. Cecilia 2
Wahoo Neumann 6, Guardian Angels CC 5

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Games for Thursday - October 17

Elimination Games
Fort Calhoun 10, David City Aquinas 0 (4 inn) (Aquinas eliminated)
Ashland-Greenwood 8, NEN 4 (NEN eliminated)

Fort Calhoun 6, Guardian Angels Central Catholic 3 (GACC eliminated)
Ashland-Greenwood 16, Hastings St. Cecilia 12 (Hastings St. Cecilia eliminated)

Douglas County West 12, Fort Calhoun 3 (6 inn) (Fort Calhoun eliminated)
Wahoo Neumann 13, Ashland-Greenwood 3 (6 inn) (Ashland-Greenwood eliminated)

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STATE CHAMPIONSHIP GAME
Monday, October 21 - 12:30 PM - at UNO

Douglas County West (27-8) vs. Wahoo Neumann (32-3)

CLASS B

First Round

Lincoln Pius X 9, Grand Island Northwest 5
Hastings 6, Scottsbluff 5
Beatrice 17, Gretna East 9 (6 inn)
Blair 10, Seward 0 (4 inn)

Second Round
Hastings 14, Lincoln Pius X 4 (5 inn)
Beatrice 5, Blair 3

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Games for Thursday - October 17

Elimination Games
Grand Island Northwest 12, Scottsbluff 4 (6 inn) (Scottsbluff eliminated)
Gretna East 5, Seward 4 (Seward eliminated)

Blair 6, Grand Island Northwest 3 (Grand Island Northwest eliminated)
Lincoln Pius X 16, Gretna East 3 (4 inn) (Gretna East eliminated)

Hastings 10, Blair 5 (Blair eliminated)
Beatrice 7, Lincoln Pius X 0 (Lincoln Pius X eliminated)

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STATE CHAMPIONSHIP GAME
Monday, October 21 - 3:30 PM - at UNO

Hastings (31-7) vs. Beatrice (29-5)

Mr. Irrelevent said:

I don’t disagree with a 180 day sit out in athletics. I believe it’s difficult to choose athletics over all other activities….even though it doesn’t seem it should be.

Also, there are a lot more transfers that aren’t super stars and don’t make huge contributions to teams than there are super stars.

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I love the discussion because we may only find an answer by bouncing ideas off one another.

ClkTwr2011 said:

I like this exchange. This is really a good question.

Dylan Raiola played his Junior Season at a Chandler AZ High School. His intent was to transfer to Phoenix Pinnacle. Under Arizona rules, he would have had to sit out so he ultimately transferred to Buford in Georgia. This rule is fairly common.

The reason why the ineligibility requirement...to keep Academics at the forefront of the transfer decisions. Our first responsibility to students is to educate them. This rule protects that first responsibility.

This is not a hill that I am willing to die on. I understand both sides. This is simply my own opinion.

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I don’t disagree with a 180 day sit out in athletics. I believe it’s difficult to choose athletics over all other activities….even though it doesn’t seem it should be.

Also, there are a lot more transfers that aren’t super stars and don’t make huge contributions to teams than there are super stars.

Mr. Irrelevent said:

It wouldn’t prevent the transfer, but why should it prevent that student from participating in any activity…the arts, unified sports, or just sports.

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I like this exchange. This is really a good question.

Dylan Raiola played his Junior Season at a Chandler AZ High School. His intent was to transfer to Phoenix Pinnacle. Under Arizona rules, he would have had to sit out so he ultimately transferred to Buford in Georgia. This rule is fairly common.

The reason why the ineligibility requirement...to keep Academics at the forefront of the transfer decisions. Our first responsibility to students is to educate them. This rule protects that first responsibility.

This is not a hill that I am willing to die on. I understand both sides. This is simply my own opinion.

ClkTwr2011 said:

Respectfully (I am serious, I do respect your opinion here) I disagree with your last sentence. If a student is truly transferring for Academic reasons, then a 180 Day window would not prevent that transfer.

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It wouldn’t prevent the transfer, but why should it prevent that student from participating in any activity…the arts, unified sports, or just sports.

northeastNebraska said:

Athletics are a part of the high school experience. Why should a kid get punished for wanting to be in a better situation? Because it hurts the home district school? Maybe the home district school can look at ways to improve so they aren't losing kids.

Should an adult have to sit out 180 days and not work because that person went to find a better employment opportunity somewhere else?

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I disagree here.

The NCAA used to have a mandatory ineligibility period upon transferring, and THEY STILL SHOULD! That was a huge mistake. That rule did not prevent athletes from attending classes or even access to training and nutrition.

While I understand your comparison to adults having to sit out 180 days between jobs, I believe the better comparison might be the employee benefit package rather than the employment itself. It is quite common for a new hire to not be eligible for vacation pay, holiday pay, health insurance, retirement, etc until after a waiting period.

point8ppg said:

This right here. The majority of students that have transferred out of their home district that I have talked to have discussed moving districts because of academics. There are of course those families or students that do transfer for athletics, but they are the minority from my own experience. If a student wants to better their academic standing while also participating in activities, a 180 day period of sitting out would do more harm to our students from an academic standpoint than athletics as it may keep them from pursuing the better education that they or their families are looking for.

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Respectfully (I am serious, I do respect your opinion here) I disagree with your last sentence. If a student is truly transferring for Academic reasons, then a 180 Day window would not prevent that transfer.

GoSkers3 said:

Lets make one thing clear - this has NOTHING to do with education. Kids are going to other schools for athletics. Why do families have to leave the school district they are in to go to a better team? What is wrong with staying at their current district and making their team better?

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Some kids are changing schools for athletics, yes. There are kids that are changing as well for academics, fine arts, or because of social reasons.......these never get talked about or publicized like athletics.