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Should we post pone all state events then for poor Johnny or jenny , injury is part of sports, it happens, its lifeBut what about the students that maybe nursing an injury that have been posting some of the fastest times or the best distances in the field events and then because they have districts aren't able to compete or are slowed because of the injury and need time to rest before state, they run the risk of further injuring themselves just because to qualify for state that have to compete at districts to qualify, I am not saying eliminating districts but there should automatic qualifying standards instead of just additional qualifiers the day of districts. For one I think that it would help with more schools getting on board with electronic timing system and would definitely lead to a more consistent reporting system throughout the state of track times and distances for the entire state of Nebraska.
If an undefeated, #1 ranked wrestler has to forfeit his matches at districts due to injury he doesn't get a free trip to Omaha. Its life. To me there is no way to take into account for weather conditions, which for those that have participated in track, can make a huge difference by even a few hundredths of a second or 1/4's of inches. To me there is just no way to make it a level playing field.But what about the students that maybe nursing an injury that have been posting some of the fastest times or the best distances in the field events and then because they have districts aren't able to compete or are slowed because of the injury and need time to rest before state, they run the risk of further injuring themselves just because to qualify for state that have to compete at districts to qualify, I am not saying eliminating districts but there should automatic qualifying standards instead of just additional qualifiers the day of districts. For one I think that it would help with more schools getting on board with electronic timing system and would definitely lead to a more consistent reporting system throughout the state of track times and distances for the entire state of Nebraska.
agree, you would have to have a wind meter at every meet and the difference between northern Nebraska and southern Nebraska can be pretty extreme in the spring. At best you could take out top two and say 1st place qualifies and rest is on times. AS far as the poor injury is not fair liberal attitude Thats crapIf an undefeated, #1 ranked wrestler has to forfeit his matches at districts due to injury he doesn't get a free trip to Omaha. Its life. To me there is no way to take into account for weather conditions, which for those that have participated in track, can make a huge difference by even a few hundredths of a second or 1/4's of inches. To me there is just no way to make it a level playing field.
swimming ???? OMG talk about not comparableIt is hard to compare sports that are completely different with wrestling and track. And further more if you read the article swimming does not have districts and is completely based off of times during the year. So why is another sport that is completely based off of times and distances not using this system. Why not take into account wind and electronic timing at every meet, it will be there at the state meet. There is more technology now than before so it should be more accessible. I guess I should have stated my first post differently, but I am someone who would like more consistency across the state in terms of time and results. I am not saying postpone district track meets for injuries, but your points about not able to control weather factors in a track meet could equalized by having qualifying standards for track. And if the standards were set to meet state track results of past results, most athletes would still probably need to compete at districts to qualify for meet.
How, both are based off of beating your opponent to the finish line by having the better time.swimming ???? OMG talk about not comparable
Conditions are way different in running and throwing when it comes to effects and weatherHow, both are based off of beating your opponent to the finish line by having the better time.
Completely agree with you on that aspect of the two sports.Conditions are way different in running and throwing when it comes to effects and weather
Re-reading the article, the real news seems to be the idea of going two sites for state on Friday using, perhaps, the stadium at Papio South. Good idea?
swimming ???? OMG talk about not comparable
Actually swimming is probably the most like track than any other sport the nsaa offers
besides its in the water and the running on land thing and the conditions are completely different, it does start and stop so Yeah sureActually swimming is probably the most like track than any other sport the nsaa offers
besides its in the water and the running on land thing and the conditions are completely different, it does start and stop so Yeah sure
Just call districts, state and then they all make it and everyone will be happy and give everyone a medal, I mean why not that is how we have raised them the last 20 years, evryone gets a ribbon, only natural those last 20 years of people want a medal nowBiggest issue I have always had with District meets is that countless times countless athletes are given a raw deal solely because of where they live.
Since Districts are drawn based on geographical proximity, You end up with several districts that are stacked in certain events.
The new qualifying format for the track events addressed that somewhat to allow more additional athletes regardless of place. However the field events are only left with the "additional" mark. You could be a great long jumper, but if the top two jumpers in the state happen to share the same district with you? You better get to that additional mark or...tough luck.
That's why I appreciate the additional qualifying mark, but also hate it. A kid could be 1/2" short of the mark and they are out of luck. Now of course, that's a good life lesson. Life's not fair. But when that kid goes home and looks at the other 8 districts and sees that their performance would have qualified in 5 other districts, or even won 2-3 of them? That's a tougher pill to swallow.
Just call districts, state and then they all make it and everyone will be happy and give everyone a medal, I mean why not that is how we have raised them the last 20 years, evryone gets a ribbon, only natural those last 20 years of people want a medal now
Just call districts, state and then they all make it and everyone will be happy and give everyone a medal, I mean why not that is how we have raised them the last 20 years, evryone gets a ribbon, only natural those last 20 years of people want a medal now
It is hard to compare sports that are completely different with wrestling and track. And further more if you read the article swimming does not have districts and is completely based off of times during the year. So why is another sport that is completely based off of times and distances not using this system. Why not take into account wind and electronic timing at every meet, it will be there at the state meet. There is more technology now than before so it should be more accessible. I guess I should have stated my first post differently, but I am someone who would like more consistency across the state in terms of time and results. I am not saying postpone district track meets for injuries, but your points about not able to control weather factors in a track meet could equalized by having qualifying standards for track. And if the standards were set to meet state track results of past results, most athletes would still probably need to compete at districts to qualify for meet.
The "technology" is quite expensive and requires several people to man and manage during a meet
It is pricey, either to purchase up front or to rent. Not sure about manpower argument, because no you no longer necessarily need timers and pickers.
Cost is a poor excuse, raise entry fee and hire an outside group to do meet, weather and number of state scratches for doing away with districts is better reason. Everyone wants state to be easy to get to and give Jimmy 10 chances to make it, why not make a joke. Look at Class D football its a joke, D1 is a real joke for state, its harder not to go to state than it isMost meets coaches have managed the timing and picking when done manually.
My daughter was in 2-3 meets that didn't have FAT. I didn't even ask her what her time is, only what place she got . Non-FAT meets are a competition against each other, the times are meaningless. That being said, no auto-qualifiers based on season times. If you can't perform at districts, you don't deserve state.
Cost is a poor excuse, raise entry fee and hire an outside group to do meet, weather and number of state scratches for doing away with districts is better reason. Everyone wants state to be easy to get to and give Jimmy 10 chances to make it, why not make a joke. Look at Class D football its a joke, D1 is a real joke for state, its harder not to go to state than it is
My daughter was in 2-3 meets that didn't have FAT. I didn't even ask her what her time is, only what place she got . Non-FAT meets are a competition against each other, the times are meaningless. That being said, no auto-qualifiers based on season times. If you can't perform at districts, you don't deserve state.
Look states as close as Iowa have been using FAT since 2009 and your southern states have been doing even longer. Its time to advance your school or close it, if you and three other school districts can not afford to go in on a system, then that $5000 on a 4 million to at lowest 3 million dollar budget breaks the bank. Your school should close its doorsTell that to the school board/superintendent that is going to OK the cost!
Nope, not a track coach. Marks (measurements) aren't meaningles tape measures don't lie. Hand held times are meaningless. Too many variables to count a non-FAT time.Obviously NOT a track coach. Times (performances) are "never" meaningless.
Nope, not a track coach. Marks (measurements) aren't meaningles tape measures don't lie. Hand held times are meaningless. Too many variables to count a non-FAT time.