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It appears it was intentionalHave seen baseball teams do that as well at different age groups. Hopefully that was just an excitement of the player and not a Taute play
Sneak a little money from your employer, as long as you don't get caught or maybe mess around with someone else on your spouse as long as you don't get caught.... Seems ok, huh. Life lessons as a coach.Have seen baseball teams do that as well at different age groups. Hopefully that was just an excitement of the player and not a Taute play
Hearing the coach bragged about it, other sites. That is not right. Wrong lesson being taught.Sneak a little money from your employer, as long as you don't get caught or maybe mess around with someone else on your spouse as long as you don't get caught.... Seems ok, huh. Life lessons as a coach.
It was a pinch runner with an offensive conference from what I know. Told your kids to cheat & try to get caught on an appeal. Sh!t bag move IMO & no place for it.
Batter bunted and two girls ran home.Tweet & video are not available, can someone give the play-by-play version?
Yikes, I don't even know how you train a player to do that.Batter bunted and two girls ran home.
Umps were focused on the plays at the plate and the throw to first. Coach apparently instructed the girl coming from second to not even touch 3rd base and just run home.........so about 2/3 of the way to third, player just rounds it and runs straight home, and scored.
Per the rules, runner can only be called out if the opposing team/coach calls for an appeal.
Is that actually the case??? They can rule someone out without an appeal on a double play or in a pickle/run-down, right?Batter bunted and two girls ran home.
Umps were focused on the plays at the plate and the throw to first. Coach apparently instructed the girl coming from second to not even touch 3rd base and just run home.........so about 2/3 of the way to third, player just rounds it and runs straight home, and scored.
Per the rules, runner can only be called out if the opposing team/coach calls for an appeal.
I believe so...but in this particular case I'm told an appeal was requiredIs that actually the case??? They can rule someone out without an appeal on a double play or in a pickle/run-down, right?
Very well put. ThanksOk, this one is tough. There was a lot going on during this play.
When a runner misses a base, the defensive team must appeal that missed base in order to get the base runner called out. It is simple, the pitcher gets the ball at the first "dead ball" following the play in question. The pitcher throws the ball to the missed base in question, and a defensive team mate steps on the base. If any base umpire saw the base runner miss the base, that base runner is called out. THAT IS THE RULE. It is not an unwritten rule. It is in fact in the rule book for every player, fan, umpire, and (most importantly) Coach to read.
Any idea that this was an umpire mistake is unsubstantiated. I would guess that at least 1 umpire, and most likely 2 umpires saw this happen. The only umpire that most likely did not see it would have been the plate umpire because of the base runner coming home.
This is not cheating. It is not against any rule. It is the defenses responsibility to simply follow the written rules, throw that ball over to 3rd, and the umpire calls the out. The responsibility here falls on the defense. Any coach or player could have stopped the game and instructed the pitcher on what to do here.
Would I (as a coach) ever instruct my players to do this?...Absolutely not. Would I be upset if I were a parent, coach, or player of an opposing team during a game that this was done?...Probably. Would I have instructed my players on what to do if this was used against me?...you better believe it.
Unintentionally missed the bag...A good example of what clk described occurred in a 2014 College World Series game between Texas and UC Irvine. College baseball teams (and probably many other teams as well) coach their players who are not directly involved in a play to watch the base nearest to them. A Texas player hit a ball into the left field corner for an apparent triple. However, as he rounded first he unintentionally missed the bag. Once the Anteater first baseman saw the ball was hit to the outfield he immediately got into a position where he could see the batter/runner round first. He saw that the runner missed the bag and alerted the pitcher. UC Irvine appealed and the first base umpire had seen exactly what the first baseman had seen and called the runner out. TV replays confirmed it and the ESPN commentator even talked about how he seen UC Irvine coaches reminding their infielders of such a situation. They ended up losing the game 1-0 but in that incident their attention to detail paid off.
Runner out of base line would be automatically out?Is that actually the case??? They can rule someone out without an appeal on a double play or in a pickle/run-down, right?
Thanks for your help just found that rule myself.A runner out of the baseline would be out if they were trying to avoid a tag.
Ok that is way wrong, must be a lot of other stuff with this coachThe coach at the center of this issue has been relieved from his coaching duties at Malcolm
Malcolm softball coach's contract not renewed after controversial play
Malcolm High School softball assistant Travis Meyer says a social media storm over a controversial play he drew up at the Nebraska high school state tournament cost him his job.omaha.com
It seems like an overreaction to fire a coach over a play or a couple of tweets. Begs the question, were there prior strikes?Ok that is way wrong
It is absolutely wrong!Ok that is way wrong, must be a lot of other stuff with this coach
IT IS NOT CHEATING. It is stupid because it is so risky. It is not against any rules.pathetic article today about this, the guy loves softball so much that he teaches his girls to cheat. he is bad for the game and should be fired with cause, go sell some beers at his bar and stay there. cheating is cheating unless you don't get caught, well he got caught and paid the price.
If it's not against the rules, the umpires could do nothing? If it isn't against the rules, no controversy? You are completely wrong. The rules DO say every base is to be touched right?IT IS NOT CHEATING. It is stupid because it is so risky. It is not against any rules.
"Not against the rules of the game" read a rule book man.It is absolutely wrong!
It is fine for coaches to teach their players to cheat in football (holding) and basketball (hand checking) because it it discretionary and dependent upon an official throwing a flag or blowing a whistle. These are clear cut violations of the rules, but if you don't get caught then you didn't do anything wrong.
This play was not even against the rules of the game. The issue here is that the Malcolm kids made the Bishop Neumann COACHES look foolish for not paying attention to what was happening on the field. I don't care if this coach was on Twitter or not (as long as no derogatory statements were made toward the opposing players or staff).
The only person that should have lost their job is the lady from Wahoo. She should have learned the rules of the game before proceeding to make herself and her staff look even dumber than they already looked.
They'll need to find a good recruiter, correctIf he wasn't such a clown about in on social media, he may still have his job. It is a black eye on the school district, I don't blame them for firing him, especially if he's not a teacher. It won't even be a situation at the start of next softball season with Malcolm having a new coach. This situation would get brought up again though if the same guy was the coach and they had a good year.
Malcolm is close enough to LNK, they will find a good coach to help with softball IMO.
Just an unnecessary way to bring negative attention to a school district.
The umpires could have done something if the defensive team would have appealed the missed base. I will guarantee that at least 1 (most likely 2) of the 3 umpires saw it. They would have called the out.If it's not against the rules, the umpires could do nothing? If it isn't against the rules, no controversy? You are completely wrong. The rules DO say every base is to be touched right?
Oh, I know the rules. If it's against the rules, then why didn't 1 of the 3 umpires call the girl out for missing 3rd base? Because that's not how the rule is written. This rule must be referenced in its entirety."Not against the rules of the game" read a rule book man.
Bases must be touched in order. Rule 8-3 article A if you're interested where it's at in the rule book.
No they couldn't. Not if it's not against the rules, as you claim. If it was not against the rules, there was nothing they could do. You're trying the least intelligent argument I've ever seen on here...The umpires could have done something if the defensive team would have appealed the missed base. I will guarantee that at least 1 (most likely 2) of the 3 umpires saw it. They would have called the out.
It's right there in the rule book. You were in the right section, keep reading.
It's not cheating, it's a calculated risk that this particular coach was willing to take. In my opinion it's a foolish risk, but that's a different conversation.
Are you implying that 3 umpires made a mistake by not calling the base runner out? I don't understand what you are getting at.No they couldn't. Not if it's not against the rules, as you claim. If it was not against the rules, there was nothing they could do. You're trying the least intelligent argument I've ever seen on here...