When are we going to get away with spring baseball in the lower classes. Only 9 teams in Class c have a winning record that are in districts!!!! Smh

tireman2 said:

The Jared Crick-Cozad reunion could be the perfect fit. He obviously has a ton of knowledge of the game with his experience. That being said, sometimes the best of players struggle to teach so it'll be interesting to see how he fills that role. Cozad has some really good young talent and it should be easy to get buy-in from those kids with the opportunity to learn from someone who has done it at the highest level.

As far as best jobs, hard to argue with Bishop-Neumann, Blair and York.

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Blair is a sleeping giant if the right person goes in there

Mr. Irrelevent said:

It's not just the NSAA though. It's the university and NPTV. NPTV has to be willing to have workers and broadcast four games in a day. The University has to be willing to have workers staff parking and the facilities for the extra hours required.

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I know for a fact they said they will

highschoolfootballnut said:

again if they dont play four games in Lincoln at the stadium( i will be surprisedif they dont) IT IS the NSAA who is just refusing to do so. So this entire discussion is only a discussion if the NSAA will not adjust the schedule and If that is the case then the member school just have to force them and then maybe think about replacing the NSAA person who they had to force to do what makes sense and other states do.

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It's not just the NSAA though. It's the university and NPTV. NPTV has to be willing to have workers and broadcast four games in a day. The University has to be willing to have workers staff parking and the facilities for the extra hours required.

Power_I_82 said:

I'm telling you. Give me a night game with several thousand people in the stands over playing at 11 am in front of a thousand. Just my opinion but the Memorial Stadium experience is a little over sold. Locker rooms sucked, atmosphere sucked, rushed you out after the game to get ready for the next one. Locker rooms had holes in the wall and particle board lockers. Other than being big, it was bad. I couldn't believe a D1 college team would use a locker room like that honestly. Make it special and make it memorable and let kids enjoy the moment. It's a state title game. They will remember it their whole lives. I was honestly underwhelmed by the experience of it. I know many will disagree, but I wasn't the only one that thought that.

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Curious how close your game ended to the next game? I find it interesting how it plays out for everyone. Our state championship, we had all the time we wanted to take photos and celebrate. It was a ground based game where the clock didn't stop much. The Class A game followed, but it was almost 2 hours later.

Locker rooms were awful. I agree. Thing is the university doesn't use either of those locker rooms for college games from what I know.

Do you honestly think more people are going to come to a class C or D game if it's at night when it's on TV? I just don't know that it would make a difference. The local fans are all there, and some other football fans, but I just don't think others are going to come because it's at night.

I find your thoughts on the atmosphere interesting. The games I played/coached there...while they looked 'empty' by the stadium standards, they were LOUD! As coaches we talked at the last one that we had to wear the headsets to hear one another talk.

tireman2 said:

Is Elkhorn still a good job? From an outsider's perspective, it looks like the two new schools (South & North) have taken most of the athletes lately. Wasn't sure if it's just a cyclical thing or if it is trending that way for the foreseeable future.

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This has been alluded to and I'd like to amplify. When the Head Coach leaves, so does the culture. Look at how many times really good traditions disappears until the right guy is found. It's a mix, good athletes give coaches a chance, then you have to plug in your culture/thoughts to continue the tradition. The business of encouraging kids to go to your school in metro areas-well-you know. Look through the schools named in this thread--expectations are there and yet you can peak back and see they have had down times. Good Luck to All

tireman2 said:

Is Elkhorn still a good job? From an outsider's perspective, it looks like the two new schools (South & North) have taken most of the athletes lately. Wasn't sure if it's just a cyclical thing or if it is trending that way for the foreseeable future.

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No question Elkhorn loses kids to Elk North and Elk South. That said, won't be long before Elkhorn North is class A and Elkhorn High is the only class B Elkhorn school.

Definitely a cyclical thing. Elkhorn dominated class B for a majority of the Wortman era. Elk South opened in 2010. Elkhorn won the title in 2011 and was in the finals in 2010 and 2014. Took Elk South about 5 years to get their program built. They won it in 2015 and 2016. As Elk South got stronger Elkhorn had to rebuild a little bit. Antlers won it again in 2020. Point of the story, these communities like Gretna, Elkhorn, Bennington, etc... that are tradition rich schools are never going away. Gretna will lose some games in various sports as Gretna East takes kids. But eventually Gretna will recover and end up back in the same place they were before East opened. The demographics of the community dictate that. More schools, but more kids to fill those schools.

highschoolfootballnut said:

you know you are not in the real player locker rooms right ? Also if you poll high school football players or ask any team or coach who have played or coached in the game THEY want it at UNL

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No they don't.

Power_I_82 said:

I do. Our high school locker room was nicer than the one we dressed in. I'm not sure you can say poll the coaches because I think the coaches voted for the D3 option knowing there would be a chance of moving out of Memorial for the finals. I think coaches are more concerned about keeping a level playing field with eligibility numbers. Coaches make decisions based on what's best for their program.. I for one welcome the changes coming to the games and am excited to see where it goes. I do know 8 man coaches love to showcase their game. There were lots of grumblings when 8 man went to the standard playoff schedule a few years back. Before that is was a great chance to be the "only show in town" on game night. The Sertoma game has been going strong for over 40 years. They love to promote the 8 man HOF in Hastings. They will make moving these out of Lincoln a great experience for everyone. I have no doubt about that. I look at what the 6 man game in Kearney does for their game. It highlights it rather than lump it in with everything else. It's great exposure for their game. It's obvious we will disagree on this topic and there are a lot of kids that will miss out on playing at Lincoln but I think this will be for the betterment of the 8 man game personally.

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again if they dont play four games in Lincoln at the stadium( i will be surprisedif they dont) IT IS the NSAA who is just refusing to do so. So this entire discussion is only a discussion if the NSAA will not adjust the schedule and If that is the case then the member school just have to force them and then maybe think about replacing the NSAA person who they had to force to do what makes sense and other states do.

highschoolfootballnut said:

you know you are not in the real player locker rooms right ? Also if you poll high school football players or ask any team or coach who have played or coached in the game THEY want it at UNL

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I do. Our high school locker room was nicer than the one we dressed in. I'm not sure you can say poll the coaches because I think the coaches voted for the D3 option knowing there would be a chance of moving out of Memorial for the finals. I think coaches are more concerned about keeping a level playing field with eligibility numbers. Coaches make decisions based on what's best for their program.. I for one welcome the changes coming to the games and am excited to see where it goes. I do know 8 man coaches love to showcase their game. There were lots of grumblings when 8 man went to the standard playoff schedule a few years back. Before that is was a great chance to be the "only show in town" on game night. The Sertoma game has been going strong for over 40 years. They love to promote the 8 man HOF in Hastings. They will make moving these out of Lincoln a great experience for everyone. I have no doubt about that. I look at what the 6 man game in Kearney does for their game. It highlights it rather than lump it in with everything else. It's great exposure for their game. It's obvious we will disagree on this topic and there are a lot of kids that will miss out on playing at Lincoln but I think this will be for the betterment of the 8 man game personally.

Power_I_82 said:

I'm telling you. Give me a night game with several thousand people in the stands over playing at 11 am in front of a thousand. Just my opinion but the Memorial Stadium experience is a little over sold. Locker rooms sucked, atmosphere sucked, rushed you out after the game to get ready for the next one. Locker rooms had holes in the wall and particle board lockers. Other than being big, it was bad. I couldn't believe a D1 college team would use a locker room like that honestly. Make it special and make it memorable and let kids enjoy the moment. It's a state title game. They will remember it their whole lives. I was honestly underwhelmed by the experience of it. I know many will disagree, but I wasn't the only one that thought that.

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you know you are not in the real player locker rooms right ? Also if you poll high school football players or ask any team or coach who have played or coached in the game THEY want it at UNL

Is Elkhorn still a good job? From an outsider's perspective, it looks like the two new schools (South & North) have taken most of the athletes lately. Wasn't sure if it's just a cyclical thing or if it is trending that way for the foreseeable future.

just_average32 said:

People don't realize how good of a job Coach Snodgrass did at York. He made that look like a great job. I think you will quickly find out that it very difficult to be successful there. If Coach Snodgrass stays there as S&C coach, they will have a shot, but there are a lot of variables working against that school being successful. Being towards the bottom in Class B enrollment does not help. If they could drop 20-30 boys or if there is a restructure of classification to get them in C1, that would change that job drastically.

Someone pointed out Grand Island. I'd argue the same for Grand Island. That's not a great job. Coach Tomlin worked his tail off to make them successful and tough as nails. it takes a special person to make that school competitive. Just because they have the most boys doesn't mean the demographics of that population lends itself to be successful at football. Look at their girls basketball program

Neumann will always be a solid job. Scotus is a great job. They have some great young kids coming up. Elkhorn is a great job. Malcom is another sneaky good job. Coach Amen slowly did great things and the district as evolved a lot. Lot of involved athletes with families who invest in their success. And i think Coufal is a tremendous coach and head coach in the making. I think Coufal is probably the best hire in possibly the best long term position for success.

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The demographics of Grand Island most certainly does lend itself to being successful. Those kids are tougher than any other class A school. I don't think many metro kids would last at GI. I'll say it again...nobody wants to play the Islanders. You might win, but you will pay for it for several days.

100% agree that Malcolm is set-up for long term success. Coufal has a good situation there.

I'm telling you. Give me a night game with several thousand people in the stands over playing at 11 am in front of a thousand. Just my opinion but the Memorial Stadium experience is a little over sold. Locker rooms sucked, atmosphere sucked, rushed you out after the game to get ready for the next one. Locker rooms had holes in the wall and particle board lockers. Other than being big, it was bad. I couldn't believe a D1 college team would use a locker room like that honestly. Make it special and make it memorable and let kids enjoy the moment. It's a state title game. They will remember it their whole lives. I was honestly underwhelmed by the experience of it. I know many will disagree, but I wasn't the only one that thought that.

Power_I_82 said:

For the sake of discussion because I'm bored at work. And let's keep this positive and not dog anyone!

From this list, who is the best hire this offseason? Why?

What do you consider the best job? Factor in school, tradition, participation, community/admin support, etc.

I'll go first.

Best Hire: I think its hard to argue with Scott Trimble's (Med Valley) track record. Won state at Arthur and Harvard. He knows what he is doing and I don't think he takes the job if the cupboard is bare. Med Valley has really struggled the last few years but does have a strong athletic tradition at the school. I would look for winning football in the near future as they acclimate to his system and the 6 man game.

Best Job: Not sure I can pick one. Several schools with strong winning traditions on there. York, Bishop Neuman, Kenesaw and Riverside have all had a ton of success. Probably hard to argue with Bishop Neuman. Don't know much about them but seems like they are always there at the end of the season.

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People don't realize how good of a job Coach Snodgrass did at York. He made that look like a great job. I think you will quickly find out that it very difficult to be successful there. If Coach Snodgrass stays there as S&C coach, they will have a shot, but there are a lot of variables working against that school being successful. Being towards the bottom in Class B enrollment does not help. If they could drop 20-30 boys or if there is a restructure of classification to get them in C1, that would change that job drastically.

Someone pointed out Grand Island. I'd argue the same for Grand Island. That's not a great job. Coach Tomlin worked his tail off to make them successful and tough as nails. it takes a special person to make that school competitive. Just because they have the most boys doesn't mean the demographics of that population lends itself to be successful at football. Look at their girls basketball program

Neumann will always be a solid job. Scotus is a great job. They have some great young kids coming up. Elkhorn is a great job. Malcom is another sneaky good job. Coach Amen slowly did great things and the district as evolved a lot. Lot of involved athletes with families who invest in their success. And i think Coufal is a tremendous coach and head coach in the making. I think Coufal is probably the best hire in possibly the best long term position for success.

CB73 said:

I think Wakefield was 8 man but was ineligible when they were having their run a few years ago.

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They had a heck of a run in C-2 in 06 & 07. Joel NIxon was a nightmare

tireman2 said:

The Jared Crick-Cozad reunion could be the perfect fit. He obviously has a ton of knowledge of the game with his experience. That being said, sometimes the best of players struggle to teach so it'll be interesting to see how he fills that role. Cozad has some really good young talent and it should be easy to get buy-in from those kids with the opportunity to learn from someone who has done it at the highest level.

As far as best jobs, hard to argue with Bishop-Neumann, Blair and York.

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I'd agree with you on Crick. Pretty cool for the Cozad kids to have someone with his resume leading the program. They will definitely be a team I'll keep an eye on next fall.

hailvictors2 said:

Best Job in terms of opportunity- Grand Island. Its the largest school in the state and you aren't the coach that followed Tomlin. Nothing but up from here. Coach Tomlin had Grand Island humming. Last year sounds like things went astray pretty fast. It can be rebuilt. When Tomlin had GI bought in nobody wanted to play the Islanders. It can be built again.

Best job in terms of prestige- Elkhorn. It isn't close. Eleven time finalist and 6 time state champ.

I don't know that I can pick a single "best hire". Matt Brackhan at York will be a great head coach. Cory Valasek at St Paul is a fantastic man and coach. Russ Plager at Wayne has won in that same role before. Scott Trimble at Medicine Valley has won everywhere he has gone. Several other guys that will do a fine job.

This cycle there were/are several tradition rich programs looking for new head coaches.
A: Papillion-Lavista, Millard West, Grand Island
B: Elkhorn and Crete. That was class B football for about 15 years in the early 2000s.
C1/C2: Bishop Neumann, Ponca, Scotus
D: Wakefield and Giltner jump off the page to me. I remember a time when Wakefield was about unbeatable, though I think they were 11-man at the time.

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I think Wakefield was 8 man but was ineligible when they were having their run a few years ago.

Wade McVey will do a Great Job at Elkhorn, has paid his dues as being D Coordinator and assistant coach in class A football and has been part of championship programs.. Coached Wade at Broken Bow where he was a tough hard working DB The future looks bright for Elkhorn HS Football

CLASS C
Play begins on Thursday, May 8

C-1 at Malcolm
#4 Tekamah-Herman (1-13)
#5 Centennial (0-11)

#1 Malcolm (21-2)
T-H/Centennial winner

#2 Douglas County West (7-10)
#3 Guardian Angels Central Catholic/West Point-Beemer (7-9)

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C-2 at Central City
#1 Central City/Centura (17-1)
#4 Falls City (4-13)

#2 Thurston-Cuming County (8-6)
#3 Omaha Roncalli (5-12)

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C-3 at Fort Calhoun
#1 Fort Calhoun (14-4)
#4 Aurora (3-11)

#2 Lincoln Lutheran (9-8)
#3 Twin River (6-7)

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C-4 at Adams Central
#1 Adams Central (16-6)
#4 Fairbury (4-16)

#2 St. Paul/Palmer (7-6)
#3 Arlington (5-13)

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C-5 at Wayne
#1 Wayne (14-9)
#4 Louisville (4-14)

#2 Auburn (12-8)
#3 Holdrege (4-10)

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C-6 at Elkhorn Mt. Michael
#1 Elkhorn Mt. Michael (10-10)
#4 Raymond Central (5-12)

#2 Lincoln Christian (9-5)
#3 Maxwell/North Platte St. Patrick's (3-5)

South Sioux City Invite
Link: https://dakotatiming.anet.live/meets/45317/track-scores/genderMSR|45317|3

BOYS
1. Columbus - 202
2. Sioux City Heelan (Iowa) - 102
3. South Sioux City - 79
4. Omaha Northwest - 77
5. Sioux City North (Iowa) - 35
6. Sioux City West (Iowa) - 27

100
1. Evvann Daniels, Columbus - 11.46

200
1. Evvann Daniels, Columbus - 22.60

400
1. Israel Daniels, Columbus - 49.89

800
1. Will Bertrand, Sioux City Heelan (IA) - 2:02.85
2. Noah Edwards, Columbus - 2:07.34

1,600
1. Luke McGinty, South Sioux City - 4:49.42

3,200
1. Kuma Gutema, Sioux City North (IA) - 9:54.11
2. Noah Edwards, Columbus - 10:37.24

110 HH
1. Hunter Wauhob, Sioux City Heelan (IA) - 14.82
2. Nabiil Yussuf, South Sioux City - 17.46

300 IH
1. Israel Daniels, Columbus - 41.25

4x100
1. Omaha Northwest - 43.21

4x400
1. Columbus - 3:29.10

4x800
1. Columbus - 8:29.05

Shot Put
1. Cooper Buxton, Columbus - 54' 0"

Discus
1. Carson McInerney, Sioux City Heelan (IA) - 166' 8"
2. Cooper Buxton, Columbus - 159' 5"

High Jump
1. Jaxson Vasicek, Columbus - 6' 2"

Pole Vault
1. Owen O'Kelley, Columbus - 12' 0"

Long Jump
1. Christopher Adkins, Omaha Northwest - 21' 9.5"

Triple Jump
1. Esteban Arcos, Columbus - 44' 7"

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GIRLS
1. Columbus - 156
2. Omaha Northwest - 128
3. South Sioux City - 78
4. Sioux City North (Iowa) - 66
5. Sioux City West (Iowa) - 46
6. Sioux City Heelan (Iowa) - 28

100
1. Imani Skanes, Omaha Northwest - 12.82

200
1. Elizabeth Wemhoff, Columbus - 25.45

400
1. Malea Robinson, Omaha Northwest - 58.23

800
1. Grayson Gentile, Columbus - 2:34.76

1,600
1. Lilly Whiteshirt, Sioux City West (IA) - 5:50.39
2. Melanie Magana, South Sioux City - 6:06.76

3,200
1. Marcella Palmer, Sioux City North (IA) - 12:21.79
4. Paige Boyer, Omaha Northwest - 13:10.12

100 HH
1. Mady Conley, Sioux City North (IA) - 17.94
2. Raegen Roebuck, Columbus - 18.38

300 LH
1. Bella Larsen, Columbus - 51.59

4x100
1. Omaha Northwest - 48.21

4x400
1. Omaha Northwest - 4:18.91

4x800
1. South Sioux City - 11:17.81

Shot Put
1. Aliyah Moon, Sioux City North (IA) - 37' 3.5"
2. Zulema Godinez Ponce, South Sioux City - 35' 1"

Discus
1. Kaylie Fedde, Columbus - 115' 6"

High Jump
1. Paighton Erb, Columbus - 5' 2"

Pole Vault
1. Madelynn Bohnet, South Sioux City - 9' 0"

Long Jump
1. Imani Skanes, Omaha Northwest - 18' 11"

Triple Jump
1. Imani Skanes, Omaha Northwest - 38' 9"

Best Job in terms of opportunity- Grand Island. Its the largest school in the state and you aren't the coach that followed Tomlin. Nothing but up from here. Coach Tomlin had Grand Island humming. Last year sounds like things went astray pretty fast. It can be rebuilt. When Tomlin had GI bought in nobody wanted to play the Islanders. It can be built again.

Best job in terms of prestige- Elkhorn. It isn't close. Eleven time finalist and 6 time state champ.

I don't know that I can pick a single "best hire". Matt Brackhan at York will be a great head coach. Cory Valasek at St Paul is a fantastic man and coach. Russ Plager at Wayne has won in that same role before. Scott Trimble at Medicine Valley has won everywhere he has gone. Several other guys that will do a fine job.

This cycle there were/are several tradition rich programs looking for new head coaches.
A: Papillion-Lavista, Millard West, Grand Island
B: Elkhorn and Crete. That was class B football for about 15 years in the early 2000s.
C1/C2: Bishop Neumann, Ponca, Scotus
D: Wakefield and Giltner jump off the page to me. I remember a time when Wakefield was about unbeatable, though I think they were 11-man at the time.