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D1/D2/D3 8-Man Football Proposal

More than half the schools in Nebraska play 8 man or 6 man. It's the outline of the state. If you are going to have the big schools have classes of 25 and 36 or less it makes sense to create a 3rd class of 8 man. Enrollment numbers will continue to adjust around the state and participation in football continues to change. So should classifications. It will only make schedules and playoff brackets more competitive.

D1/D2/D3 8-Man Football Proposal

Thats what we need 8 classes of Football in a State less than 2 million total people NO thank you
Not saying I don't agree with you but looking at it, it would make the numbers in those three 8 man classes similar to every other class in the state. I'd argue you could bump C1 into class B and drop C2 into 8man, split 8 man 3 ways and have some really competitive football. That makes it 6 classes.
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Have you seen how many games they play each week for volleyball and basketball?

I wish my daughters' team didn't play 3 games a week, every week of the season.

Too many games nowadays. Don't worry about these poor teams not getting to compete, they will still get to compete plenty of times.

Many times co-oping means small, low talent level schools must compete with larger, more talented schools, resulting in more embarrassing losses.

You act like co-oping is easy. Try traveling on muddy gravel roads for 30+ miles one way 5 days a week. Not every town is 5 miles apart with highways.

How much more do parents need to worry about their teenage children driving in the dark after practices, especially when the younger kids on the team cannot drive yet, so now you are placing multiple young lives in the hands of your kids when they have to give each other rides?

Who pays for the fuel bill for these kids to drive back and forth? Who gets out of practice at 7 or 8pm instead of 6pm each night? How much more family time must be given up in the evenings?

Please don't act like co-oping is such as easy choice that is only denied by selfishness.

There is a lot of sacrifice for each school (admins, head and assistant coaches that get paid very little, students, parents, fans, etc) that co-ops.

You aren't wrong there. My niece is a freshman on a Class C team. Between JV and Reserve games she will probably have at least 30 games this year. That's a lot.
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Am I the only one laughing at the idea that better facilities and resources change kids priorities of where they find their entertainment and hobbies?

Do this, do that...but no one is really asking the "why" to the question. "WHY is participation struggling?"

Finding the answers to problems is usually rooted in the "why".

Well in my opinion, it has more to do with outsourcing athletes to clubs and the widened gap socio-economically of the families involved, than it does with School facilities. Now I agree that some consolidation needs to happen. But to use that argument to the only small county north of the interstate in central Nebraska that saw population growth in the last couple census' is not a good take

I'm sorry but I'm annoyed with the whole "just do" message rather than finding a solution of why. The comparison to "WELL WHEN I WAS IN SCHOOL........" is laughable to think these kids all of a sudden think what their parents generation did was cool. No generation of kids has ever thought it would be sweet to live like their parents did.

There are SO many layers to these types of things and us keyboard warriors tend to think we're going to solve all the problems with the stroke of 6-7 sentences keyboard strikes.

/off
Biggest reason participation is declining is 2 fold
1) the obvious answer is lack of population in rural communities ( which I’ve been born and raised in and have sent my kids to)
2) the family structure
Two parents working!! Kids need a parent at home

Burwell Basketball

Ha! Would you please sign up to be on my negotiations committee?! I’d love a raise for all the coaching, teaching, and everything else we do. You’re spot on—head coaches, assistant coaches, and officials definitely deserve more for all the grief and the stuff that gets said behind our backs. Most of us aren’t in it for the paycheck, but it sure would be nice if the paycheck kept up with everything we’re handling!

And honestly, with inflation these days, I could use an inflated raise just to keep up with my three kids and my wife! We’re all just trying to make it out here, right?
Once had a school board member want coaches to track their hours. The superintendent looked at the packed room, as there were other hot button topics on their agenda and say, 'Sir, I don't believe you'd like to learn that you are paying people less than 50 cents an hour for their work.' The superintendent then went in to break down a week of football and volleyball season for the board and attendees to which many were in shock at the time spent.

Twins, thank you for acknowledging those people that are under paid and under appreciated for their work. I feel a bit better about your thoughts on educators now. I will say, as C8 did, the money isn't bad...but to make money in the profession, you have to do a lot of the extra pay stuff and get a high education degree.

Burwell Basketball

I would put head coaches, assistant coaches, and officials in the same boat as underpaid for the grief they catch and for the amount of things that are said about them behind their backs.

I looked into coaching a few years ago (not a high school head coach) and the pay did not cover my fuel going to and from the school from my house, let alone cover the missed hours of work at my normal job.

For any coaches that do not already work for the school, it's got to be tough to show on paper that it is worth it monetarily.

Many coaches don't do it for the money, but deserve more pay for what they deal with. The problem is that it's tough to justify due to other costs and programs within a school system.
Ha! Would you please sign up to be on my negotiations committee?! I’d love a raise for all the coaching, teaching, and everything else we do. You’re spot on—head coaches, assistant coaches, and officials definitely deserve more for all the grief and the stuff that gets said behind our backs. Most of us aren’t in it for the paycheck, but it sure would be nice if the paycheck kept up with everything we’re handling!

And honestly, with inflation these days, I could use an inflated raise just to keep up with my three kids and my wife! We’re all just trying to make it out here, right?

Burwell Basketball

And whoever thinks a coaches pay is good pay for the time they put in is crazy....
I would put head coaches, assistant coaches, and officials in the same boat as underpaid for the grief they catch and for the amount of things that are said about them behind their backs.

I looked into coaching a few years ago (not a high school head coach) and the pay did not cover my fuel going to and from the school from my house, let alone cover the missed hours of work at my normal job.

For any coaches that do not already work for the school, it's got to be tough to show on paper that it is worth it monetarily.

Many coaches don't do it for the money, but deserve more pay for what they deal with. The problem is that it's tough to justify due to other costs and programs within a school system.
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I teach and coach anything and everything under the sun for 12 months a year—from little kids to high school seniors. It’s a ton of work, and it takes a lot of sacrifice. I make good money, well over $40K, but that's because I've kept up my education with two master's degrees. And I love every single second of it.

The list of challenges? Oh, it's long: administration, parents, kids, more kids, my kids, my wife...and yeah, sometimes even me. At the end of the day, though, teaching and coaching is a great career. Underpaid? Maybe. Underappreciated? Definitely. I hear more about what we should do or how we could be different than about what we’re doing well or how much we’re appreciated.
This man nailed it, at least to a point...

TwinsRRUs, you have two examples that anyone can name. Every school district has elementary teachers who don't want to do anything outside of 8-4. That's few a far between in middle schools and high schools where activities take place, especially in non class A and B districts. I would also guarantee that the experience teacher has paid for more education that just a bachelors degree.

And whoever thinks a coaches pay is good pay for the time they put in is crazy....

Burwell Basketball

HA.... Who wants to tell this guy that "10 months of work and no weekends" stopped being a thing in education about 50 years ago. Find me a teacher that doesn't work in the summer time and doesn't work on the weekends and I'll show you a unicorn.
I teach and coach anything and everything under the sun for 12 months a year—from little kids to high school seniors. It’s a ton of work, and it takes a lot of sacrifice. I make good money, well over $40K, but that's because I've kept up my education with two master's degrees. And I love every single second of it.

The list of challenges? Oh, it's long: administration, parents, kids, more kids, my kids, my wife...and yeah, sometimes even me. At the end of the day, though, teaching and coaching is a great career. Underpaid? Maybe. Underappreciated? Definitely. I hear more about what we should do or how we could be different than about what we’re doing well or how much we’re appreciated.

8 Man Semifinals Predictions

Sandy wins big
Stanton grinds another win out

Central Valley by 8
Riverside by 12

I really wish Riverside was against Archangels this week. But a Riverside vs Central Valley state title will have some juice with all those communities in such short proximity of each other. Isn’t one of Riverside’s best players injured as well?
Yes, Riverside's starting quarterback is out. But their backup looked great against Sandhills/Thedford last week and a lot of other teams would love to have a player like that as their starter.

Speaking of injuries, Central Valley's best player, Grady Kelly, missed most of the year with a foot injury. He's been back for a couple games now and has given them an extra boost.

Burwell Basketball

Am I the only one laughing at the idea that better facilities and resources change kids priorities of where they find their entertainment and hobbies?

Do this, do that...but no one is really asking the "why" to the question. "WHY is participation struggling?"

Finding the answers to problems is usually rooted in the "why".

Well in my opinion, it has more to do with outsourcing athletes to clubs and the widened gap socio-economically of the families involved, than it does with School facilities. Now I agree that some consolidation needs to happen. But to use that argument to the only small county north of the interstate in central Nebraska that saw population growth in the last couple census' is not a good take

I'm sorry but I'm annoyed with the whole "just do" message rather than finding a solution of why. The comparison to "WELL WHEN I WAS IN SCHOOL........" is laughable to think these kids all of a sudden think what their parents generation did was cool. No generation of kids has ever thought it would be sweet to live like their parents did.

There are SO many layers to these types of things and us keyboard warriors tend to think we're going to solve all the problems with the stroke of 6-7 sentences keyboard strikes.

/off

Burwell Basketball

What $ amount is horrible to you for 10 months of work and no weekends?
HA.... Who wants to tell this guy that "10 months of work and no weekends" stopped being a thing in education about 50 years ago. Find me a teacher that doesn't work in the summer time and doesn't work on the weekends and I'll show you a unicorn.

Burwell Basketball

Have you seen how many games they play each week for volleyball and basketball?

I wish my daughters' team didn't play 3 games a week, every week of the season.

Too many games nowadays. Don't worry about these poor teams not getting to compete, they will still get to compete plenty of times.

Many times co-oping means small, low talent level schools must compete with larger, more talented schools, resulting in more embarrassing losses.

You act like co-oping is easy. Try traveling on muddy gravel roads for 30+ miles one way 5 days a week. Not every town is 5 miles apart with highways.

How much more do parents need to worry about their teenage children driving in the dark after practices, especially when the younger kids on the team cannot drive yet, so now you are placing multiple young lives in the hands of your kids when they have to give each other rides?

Who pays for the fuel bill for these kids to drive back and forth? Who gets out of practice at 7 or 8pm instead of 6pm each night? How much more family time must be given up in the evenings?

Please don't act like co-oping is such as easy choice that is only denied by selfishness.

There is a lot of sacrifice for each school (admins, head and assistant coaches that get paid very little, students, parents, fans, etc) that co-ops.
All good points, but in the end Io_a and other states HAVE figured it out and I hope it hasn't led to any additional deaths to kids. That would indeed be a terrible conclusion to a co-oping decision.
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